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Re: Ideas behind programming language syntax choices?

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Date 2018-09-23 17:02 -0700
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Subject Re: Ideas behind programming language syntax choices?
From Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com>

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Den måndag 24 september 2018 kl. 01:56:53 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> Den måndag 24 september 2018 kl. 01:52:17 UTC+2 skrev Jonas Thörnvall:
> > Den måndag 24 september 2018 kl. 00:33:55 UTC+2 skrev Silvio:
> > > On 22-09-18 06:53, Jonas Thörnvall wrote:
> > > > Often i find it a bit backward reading code, so i wonder a bit about the reason behind choices done in programming languages.
> > > > 
> > > > Why
> > > > track[recTrack].midiMess.splice(trackevent,1);
> > > > and not
> > > > track[recTrack].midiMess[trackevent].splice(1);
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't the later more readable, maybe it is just a personal preference?
> > > > But if you replace the indexname with just the index, the former make no sense if you do not know the parameter order.
> > > > 
> > > > But the later is still readable right out of the box?
> > > > Well i could be wrong but i find the later more intuitive.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Programming language syntax is just a way of writing down programming 
> > > semantics. Since you do not grasp the latter at all it is hard to 
> > > explain the former to you.
> > > The syntactic alternative you propose is an expression of completely 
> > > different semantics.
> > > 
> > > Elsewhere in this thread you boast about your own high IQ versus the low 
> > > IQ of people you do not understand. I am sure you will also not 
> > > understand what I said above and cope with that by calling me stupid. 
> > > The world must be a strange and hostile place for you.
> > 
> > I do get that they try to keep the language minimalistic and do not want to reserve words.
> > 
> > But one can questoin why use splice? who the fuck come up with that???
> > Why not
> > track[tracknr].midiMess[trackEvent].delete({time:instime,data0:144,data1:insnote,data2:insvel}); 
> > 
> > and
> > track[tracknr].midiMess[trackEvent].insert({time:instime,data0:144,data1:insnote,data2:insvel}); 
> > 
> > Well i can tell you why they are anal ENTP fucks that feel smart, when they come up with splice which make the readability dependent of that you know the parameters.
> > 
> > "Yeah feel smart.. but it is utterly stupid"
> > Did they think they were saving something?
> 
> Yeah it is methods on the elements you morons...

You see you can't go wrong with element methods like
arr[muppets].insert():
arr[muppets].delete();

No the stupid fucks want to be pioneering, by remove the index, replace "the real method names" with an akronym and throw in the index as a parameter and "call it array methods"

You stupid fucks should not work with webdevelopment at all, go back to your blip blop cave.

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  Re: Ideas behind programming language syntax choices? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-22 15:17 +0200
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