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Re: Javascript replacing Java?

From Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Javascript replacing Java?
Date 2017-05-08 17:58 +0000
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On Mon, 08 May 2017 05:14:41 -0700, Eric Douglas wrote:

> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 9:28:32 AM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> I'd teach either C or Pascal as a pure procedural language because both
>> are fairly small languages with relatively clean syntax, but with a
>> preference for C because its useful outside academia.
> 
> My college was mostly COBOL, with introductory courses in C++, CICS,
> DB2, JCL, RPGIII, but I graduated in 1996.
> I would expect college today for a CIS major to teach Java, Javascript,
> PHP, Powershell, SQL, HTML5, CSS, what else is popular?  Maybe some C#
> or Ruby, or mobile app language?

My first languages, in order, were:
Algol 60, PLAN (ICL 1900 macro assembler) and COBOL.

I don't think that SQL can be meaningfully taught as a stand-alone 
language. Rather, it should be taught as part of a RDBMS module which 
would also include data modelling and normalisation, Entity-relationship 
diagramming, SQL, ODBC and JDBC programming. I'd use PostgreSQL as the 
course DBMS because its SQL dialect has fewer non-standard features that 
its rivals and its a FOSS database.
 
I would not include HTML/CSS because thats a markup language rather than 
a programming language. Anybody who needs to learn it can do so by buying 
a copy of Elizabeth Castro's "HTML for the World Wide Web" and working 
through it.


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Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:24 -0700
  Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-03 10:51 -0400
    Re: Javascript replacing Java? Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-04 05:52 +0800
      Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-03 23:14 -0400
        Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-05 14:44 -0700
          Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-05 22:28 -0400
            Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-06 13:25 +0000
              Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 05:14 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-08 17:58 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:12 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-08 22:23 +0000
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              Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-14 20:30 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-15 11:55 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 10:46 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-15 19:49 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-15 19:08 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-16 10:43 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-16 19:14 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-17 00:13 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:58 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-16 12:23 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-05-16 10:46 -0400
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                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2017-05-22 18:17 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 07:51 -0700
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