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Re: Javascript replacing Java?

Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Date	2017-05-08 13:12 -0700
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Subject	Re: Javascript replacing Java?
From	Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>

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On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> My first languages, in order, were:
> Algol 60, PLAN (ICL 1900 macro assembler) and COBOL.
> 
My first language was BASIC, in 8th grade on TRS-80s.  My first college course was COBOL (what most businesses used before Java was invented).
My brother learned C, Fortran, Pascal, assembler, so I can only guess those are more used in AI.

> I don't think that SQL can be meaningfully taught as a stand-alone 
> language. Rather, it should be taught as part of a RDBMS module which 
> would also include data modelling and normalisation, Entity-relationship 
> diagramming, SQL, ODBC and JDBC programming. I'd use PostgreSQL as the 
> course DBMS because its SQL dialect has fewer non-standard features that 
> its rivals and its a FOSS database.
>  
I would think data modeling and normalization can be an entire course, and should probably be a prerequisite to SQL.  SQL can easily be it's own course covering transaction commit/rollback, functions, optimization, and joins and unions.

> I would not include HTML/CSS because thats a markup language rather than 
> a programming language. Anybody who needs to learn it can do so by buying 
> a copy of Elizabeth Castro's "HTML for the World Wide Web" and working 
> through it.

HTML and CSS started as a markup language, just universal tags to make text and pictures look pretty.  Our current project sounds more like programming, writing a web page that looks good on a desktop and on any mobile device that has a push button that can open a file browser on the desktop or activate the camera on a mobile device... this course should probably be a prerequisite to the Javascript course and surely to the PHP course.

So far I've personally done very little in any of those web languages but from what I've seen in the help wanted ads they're a must have these days.  I've been with the same small business 17 years.  We started with a custom language using BASIC syntax which is now a hybrid language which runs on Java, and we dabbled in C#.  All our software runs on the local domain.  We have a separate developer for the web site stuff.

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Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:24 -0700
  Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-03 10:51 -0400
    Re: Javascript replacing Java? Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-04 05:52 +0800
      Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-03 23:14 -0400
        Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-05 14:44 -0700
          Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-05 22:28 -0400
            Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-06 13:25 +0000
              Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 05:14 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-08 17:58 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:12 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-08 22:23 +0000
            Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 13:41 -0700
              Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-14 20:30 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-15 11:55 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 10:46 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-15 19:49 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-15 19:08 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-16 10:43 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-16 19:14 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-17 00:13 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 04:58 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-05-16 12:23 +0000
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2017-05-16 10:46 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-05-16 19:17 -0400
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2017-05-22 18:17 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 07:51 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 10:44 -0700
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2017-05-15 15:07 -0500
                Re: Javascript replacing Java? lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 13:30 -0700

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