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Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates?

From Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates?
Date 2015-09-24 10:19 -0400
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On 09/24/2015 09:30 AM, Sebastian wrote:
> Am 23.09.2015 16:54, schrieb Jeff Higgins:
> [snip]
>> Bringing the overloaded term "Multiple Inheritance" into a beginning
>> Java programming course in a fashion such as "No multiple inheritance
>> in Java" and all of its variants is harmful. If you have to bring it in
>> at least do it as in the example provided by the Java tutorials. If a
>> particular student needs more information point him to it and carry on.
>>
>> That is my opinion.
>
> I guess avoiding the term altogether will do no good, as every student
> will come across it sooner or later on Google. Better prepare them.
>
> You can't really avoid the topic when teaching interfaces. The Java
> tutorial is quite clear:
>
> "Multiple inheritance of implementation is the ability to inherit method
> definitions from multiple classes. [...]  Default methods introduce one
> form of multiple inheritance of implementation."
>
> Quoted from
> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/IandI/multipleinheritance.html
>
Yes. You've pretty much managed to restate my position.

What I am advocating against are blanket unqualified statements such as 
the OP's challenge to me upthread --

"Can you explain to me why Java cannot have multiple inheritance? Please 
note, I am asking WHY. This is Java 101 question."

My reply to which also pointed to:
Multiple Inheritance of State, Implementation, and Type
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/IandI/multipleinheritance.html

I then pointed to an interview with James Gosling explaining why
he chose to implement multiple inheritance as he did.

I then pointed to resources that explain the term 'multiple inheritance"
in a broader context for the student that wants more information.

My intent is not a complete ban of the term, rather a good definition.

If my ramblings here said or implied otherwise, thank you for the
opportunity to correct them here.



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can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 07:55 -0700
  Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 12:08 -0400
    Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 09:17 -0700
      Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 10:38 -0700
        Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:34 -0700
      Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 13:51 -0400
        Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 11:11 -0700
          Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 18:56 -0400
            Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 20:23 -0700
              Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-19 09:29 -0400
              Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-19 10:00 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 13:57 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 14:04 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 15:15 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:49 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-22 11:02 +0000
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:14 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:16 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:32 -0400
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                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:36 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 10:56 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-22 05:26 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 10:09 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-23 15:25 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-23 09:43 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:54 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-24 15:30 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 10:19 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-24 17:12 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 12:05 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 11:17 -0400

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