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Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates?

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2015-09-21 13:57 -0700
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Subject Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates?
From John <xsli2@yahoo.com>

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On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 10:02:34 AM UTC-4, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 09/18/2015 11:23 PM, John wrote:
> > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 6:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> >> On 09/18/2015 02:11 PM, e.d.programmer@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:52:38 PM UTC-4, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> >>>> How will Oracle Java SE certificates make your students more valuable.
> >>>> How much more valuable? More valuable to whom? Who says?
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>
> >>> Assuming they're not going to be self employed, the value is to a potential employer, which is hard to quantify because potential employers are not required to send rejection letters.  If you have a certification you're going to be far below someone with a US 4 year college degree in the programming field, unless you have a comparable degree, then that certification tagline could bump you ahead of them.
> >>> Just read the description of the certification and be sure it applies to the job you want or it may just be a waste of money.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm concerned that the topic of Java Certification didn't come
> >> up during an interview for the position of "Java instructor of
> >> computer science in a local college in a developing country in Asia"
> >>
> >> As a student trying to decide whether to enroll in a course led
> >> by the OP I would have been grateful for a pointer to this thread.
> >
> > Jeff:
> > If you really have nothing better to do, here is one Java SE question for you:
> > Can you explain to me why Java cannot have multiple inheritance? Please note, I am asking WHY. This is Java 101 question. I am sure you look shining when my future students look at your answer on this thread, or the opposite way. One of the other.
> >
> For some of your more curious students you might point to
> the chapter titled "Data Abstraction and Object Orientation"
> in:
> 
> Scott, Michael L. Programming Language Pragmatics.
> San Francisco: Morgan Kaufmann, 2000.
> 
> You may see all editions here:
> <http://www.cs.rochester.edu/~scott/pragmatics/>

Wow, Jeff:
I am asking(testing) you a question("Why Java cannot have multiple inheritance?") and you threw back to me a web link first and a book later. You are really "shining"!!!

Here is my answer to the question:

Suppose Java can have multiple inheritance, let's say both BaseA and BaseB are two concrete classes:

public class BaseA {
    public void sayHi(){System.out.println("Hi from A!");
}

public class BaseB {
    public void sayHi(){System.out.println("Hi from B!");
}

public class MyClass extends BaseA, BaseB { //multiple inheritance is not allowed
    public static void main(String[] args) {
       MyClass c = new MyClass();
       c.sayHi();  //Will it say "Hi from A!" or "Hi from B!"?
    }
}

For Java, in order to achieve multiple inheritance effect, we use interface:

public interface BaseC {
    public void sayHi();
}

public class MyClass extends BaseA implements BaseC {

    public void sayHi() {//MyClass must implement this method to be concrete
       System.out.println("Hi I am here!");
    }
    
    public static void main(String[] args) {
       MyClass c = new MyClass();
       c.sayHi();  //prints "Hi I am here"
    }
}

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can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 07:55 -0700
  Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 12:08 -0400
    Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 09:17 -0700
      Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 10:38 -0700
        Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:34 -0700
      Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 13:51 -0400
        Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 11:11 -0700
          Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 18:56 -0400
            Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 20:23 -0700
              Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-19 09:29 -0400
              Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-19 10:00 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 13:57 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? John <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 14:04 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 15:15 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:49 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-22 11:02 +0000
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:47 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:14 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:16 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:32 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:54 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-22 06:34 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:36 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 10:56 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-22 05:26 -0700
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-22 09:50 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 10:09 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-23 15:25 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-23 09:43 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:54 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-24 15:30 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 10:19 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2015-09-24 17:12 +0200
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 12:05 -0400
                Re: can you give me some hints on the Oracle Java SE related certificates? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-22 11:17 -0400

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