Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA
Date	2017-04-25 01:48 -0400
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On 4/24/2017 10:22 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
> On 4/24/2017 9:08 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 6:12:02 PM UTC-7, foxaudio...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> This is a disturbing development.
>>>
>>> https://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/
>>>
>>> We need open source cars, tractors and well... everything now.
>>>
>>> B
>>
>> If you buy a tractor and get a warranty with the deal, then the
>> concept of ownership is already pretty fuzzy --- that is a lot like
>> leasing --- and, realistically, who is going to buy a diesel tractor
>> and take on the responsibility of repairing it himself?
>>
>> BTW: I worked on a cattle ranch not long ago, so I spent a lot of time
>> driving a big green tractor in a slow inward spiral around the hay field.
>>
> Apparently there are several reasons for rebelling against this
> procedure, John Deere charges an arm and leg to repair the tractor but
> worse yet they make you wait before they repair it, when the harvest is
> ready you can't sit around waiting a week for John Deere mechanic to
> show up, so a lot of people are turning to installing hacked software
> that has no restrictions so the farmers can find out what is wrong and
> order the parts themselves.

Yeah, the right to repair movement is gaining momentum.  I've been 
watching it for a couple of years now and it is starting to show up in 
mainstream media... unless that is just fake news.  Hard to tell.

One of the funny things is that the "hacked software" is often provided 
from eastern countries.  While they could never be held liable for their 
software doing any damage, they have to maintain a reputation or 
business would suffer.  Seems the large farm implement companies don't 
care so much about reputation.

-- 

Rick C

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Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 18:12 -0700
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 19:08 -0700
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 21:22 -0500
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:06 -0700
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 22:00 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:48 -0400
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:12 -0700
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:24 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:27 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 23:35 -0500
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 23:32 -0500
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:54 -0400
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-25 01:10 -0500
          Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 12:20 -0400
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 02:12 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 04:51 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-26 03:42 -0500
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-25 07:39 +0000
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 12:33 -0400
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-26 14:57 +0000
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:22 -0400

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