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Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA

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foxaudioresearch@gmail.com writes:
>This is a disturbing development.
>
>https://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/
>
>We need open source cars, tractors and well... everything now.

Note that open source is not enough.  There is one camp in the free
software movement that sees end user rights as paramount, while
another camp has mainly the programmers' rights in mind.  This does
not result in the same position in all cases.  In particular, the
first camp is against Tivoization (similar to the John Deere case),
while the second camp finds it acceptable; the GPLv3 is intended to
prevent Tivoization of GPLv3 software, and has therefore been rejected
by Linus Torvalds, who wrote that Tivo had the right to determine what
software runs on their devices (referring to devices that Tivo had
produced and *sold* to customers).

Interestingly, the article above also says " Product makers don’t like
people messing with their stuff", as if the product makers were still
the owners after selling the product.

- anton
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Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 18:12 -0700
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 19:08 -0700
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 21:22 -0500
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:06 -0700
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 22:00 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:48 -0400
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:12 -0700
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:24 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 21:27 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 23:35 -0500
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-24 23:32 -0500
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 01:54 -0400
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-25 01:10 -0500
          Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 12:20 -0400
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 02:12 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 04:51 -0700
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-26 03:42 -0500
  Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-25 07:39 +0000
    Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 12:33 -0400
      Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-26 14:57 +0000
        Re: Software Could Re-define Ownership in the USA rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 12:22 -0400

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