Re: initializer list type deduction rules

From	Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: initializer list type deduction rules
Date	2022-08-14 11:12 +0000
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 09:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
=?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote:
>On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 12:36:03 UTC+3, Mut...@dastardlyhq.com wrote=
>> >Maybe you haven't noticed but it is C++ that we discuss not English.
>> Maybe you haven't noticed but C++ uses english keywords which generally r=
>elate=20
>> to their meaning. Otherwise might as well just use sdfkuewyr , iuwe8ruew =
>and=20
>> maybe iewiuriweur instead.
>
>But fortunately we use English like wchar_t or std::snprintf so I should ha=
>ve
>a word with my English teacher.

Umm, wchar means wide character, snprintf means print to a fixed numerical
sized string. Meanwhile, "using" to define... umm, no.

>> Use the same as "using" for that particular use case. Is that clear now o=
>r=20
>> do you need it in crayon?
>
>That is quite bad idea, that would result with typedef being most hard to
>teach.

Why? Did you have a problem with the 2 different syntax of the for() command
from C++11 onwards?

>> Wtf are you babbling about? I worked for a major aircraft manufacturer un=
>til=20
>> recently and the teams linux dev box was located in a secure room with re=
>mote=20
>> access via ssh tunnelled X windows with all required libraries and tools=
>=20
>> installed on it. But I imagine in whatever Mickey Mouse company you work =
>for=20
>> everything would be duplicated on desktops.
>
>Sounds something rather dangerous ... I have never had such process with wa=

Having the team dev server in a secured server room with all tools and libraries
on it vetted is dangerous? Compared to everyone having a copy of them on their
desk/laptop installed alongside god knows what other potentially hackable 
stuff? Really?

Even MS has finally got into dev servers though as usually in a hopelessly
inefficient and complicated way.

>less risky equipment. Some kind of Voronezh Aircraft Production Association=

They build ~half the commercial passenger aircraft in the world so I imagine
they know what they're doing.

>> You do realise huge amounts of embedded systems use linux now and testing=
> an=20
>> debugging often have to be done in situ if the system is already installe=
>d=20
>> on site.
>
>So you debug airplanes of =D0=90=D1=8D=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=84=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=82 =
>right at airport .. got it.

Obviously not. Different company idiot. I was giving examples from my
personal experience.

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initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-09 07:54 +0000
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-08-09 10:43 +0200
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-09 09:00 -0700
    Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-09 16:06 +0000
      Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 02:32 +0000
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-10 09:11 +0300
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 06:57 +0000
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 07:31 +0000
      Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 00:40 -0700
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 07:55 +0000
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 01:13 -0700
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 08:21 +0000
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 11:13 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 08:26 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 03:38 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 10:48 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 04:54 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 14:34 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 08:34 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 15:57 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 09:16 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-13 09:35 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-13 09:44 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-14 11:12 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 14:58 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 08:59 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 16:11 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 16:44 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 12:08 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 16:42 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-13 18:14 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-14 11:06 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-15 11:34 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-15 19:03 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-15 21:23 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2022-08-15 13:51 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-16 19:16 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-21 22:23 +0300
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-22 08:08 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-22 11:37 +0300
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-22 10:23 +0000
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-11 06:24 +0000
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-11 16:37 +0100
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-11 20:12 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-12 00:09 +0100
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-12 11:51 +0000
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 08:29 +0000
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-12 12:08 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 14:37 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 15:01 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-15 06:04 +0000
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-08-09 16:08 -0700
    Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 02:34 +0000

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