Re: initializer list type deduction rules

From	Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: initializer list type deduction rules
Date	2022-08-10 08:21 +0000
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 01:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
=?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?= <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 10:55:25 UTC+3, Mut...@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> The more pertinent question is why the C++ committee felt the need to 
>> duplicate the functionality of typedef.
>
>That ship has sailed over decade ago and the answer was that there
>was need to create alias-templates that typedef does not let to.

And the reason typedef couldn't have been extended to do them was.... ?

>> >Then proposed will be that we put clang-tidy into toolchain. It will 
>> >automatically replace all typedefs with using before building and so 
>> >one commit later there will be no typedefs in any code that team 
>> >maintains manually. It is attractive to people bored of that 
>> >bike-shedding. Tools that automatically replace using with typedef 
>> >are missing so there are no way to resolve it sanely in other direction.
>> 
>> On a large C++ unix project that only uses typedefs for defining types: 
>> 
>> grep typedef $(find -E . -regex ".*\.(h|hpp|cc|cpp)") 
>> 
>> will list all your definitions. Putting "using" in there will probably bring 
>
>> back a whole load of crap you don't want.
>
>Majority are probably indifferent ... usage of grep to find aliases might
>feel like usage of #define to declare those. It is two levels below tools
>that their IDEs provide with keypress or two.

Clearly you've never done much serious development on *nix or had to develop/
debug remotely down an ssh link.

And FWIW Eclipse is a slow steaming bug ridden POC.

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initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-09 07:54 +0000
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2022-08-09 10:43 +0200
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-09 09:00 -0700
    Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-09 16:06 +0000
      Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 02:32 +0000
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-10 09:11 +0300
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 06:57 +0000
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 07:31 +0000
      Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 00:40 -0700
        Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 07:55 +0000
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 01:13 -0700
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-10 08:21 +0000
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-10 11:13 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 08:26 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 03:38 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 10:48 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 04:54 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 14:34 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 08:34 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 15:57 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 09:16 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-13 09:35 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-13 09:44 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-14 11:12 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 14:58 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 08:59 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 16:11 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 16:44 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 12:08 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-08-12 16:42 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-13 18:14 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-14 11:06 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-15 11:34 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-15 19:03 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-15 21:23 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2022-08-15 13:51 -0700
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-16 19:16 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-21 22:23 +0300
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-22 08:08 +0200
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-08-22 11:37 +0300
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-22 10:23 +0000
          Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-11 06:24 +0000
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-11 16:37 +0100
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-11 20:12 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-12 00:09 +0100
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-12 11:51 +0000
            Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 08:29 +0000
              Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-12 12:08 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-08-12 14:37 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-12 15:01 +0000
                Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-15 06:04 +0000
  Re: initializer list type deduction rules Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-08-09 16:08 -0700
    Re: initializer list type deduction rules Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-08-10 02:34 +0000

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