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  The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:41 +0800
    Chauserian Poetry (was: Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:53 +0800
      Re: Chauserian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:07 +0200
        Re: Chiuicerian Poetry Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0800
          Re: Chiuicerian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 13:32 +0200
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 15:16 +1100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:26 +0800
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 09:54 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 20:56 +1100
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:56 +0800
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:22 +0200
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical  dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:18 -0700
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:17 +1100
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:22 -0700
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-04 19:53 +0100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:59 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:13 +0000
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:25 +0200
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:05 +0000
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:29 +0000
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 11:23 -0400
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:46 -0400
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:54 +0800
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 21:30 +0200
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-10-04 22:56 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:23 -0400
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 01:29 +0100
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 00:02 -0400
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-05 11:39 -0400
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 13:23 -0400
                  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-05 16:10 -0400
                    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:52 +1100
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:26 +0100
                  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 18:30 -0400
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:17 +0100
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:54 +1100
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 18:43 -0400
                  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-06 02:19 +0100
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:41 +1100
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-05 09:41 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-05 04:26 +0200
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:29 +0100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-04 19:46 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:58 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:18 -0400
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:50 +0800
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:35 +1100
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-05 04:32 +0200
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:32 +0100
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:57 +1100
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-06 02:22 +0100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:11 -0700

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#1151825

On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 13:46:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:


>Wright replied that "There's more than one way to slice a cat".
>
>The idiom, in case you don't know, is "There's more than one way to
>skin a cat" or "No matter how you slice it".   
>
>I don't know that skinning a cat is any less gruesome than slicing a
>cat, but the version used was a mangled combination of two different
>idioms.

And then there's "bell the cat". 

DuckDuckGo says:

"Bell the cat is an idiomatic phrase that stems from a fable or
proverb told to provide sound advice. It stems from a story of mice
attempting to save their homes and lives from a hunting cat upon which
they want to hang a bell around its neck to warn them of the cat's
approach. However, the question remains to whom the dangerous task
will fall."


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#1151856

On 05/10/2026 03:26, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 13:46:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Wright replied that "There's more than one way to slice a cat".
>>
>> The idiom, in case you don't know, is "There's more than one way to
>> skin a cat" or "No matter how you slice it".
>>
>> I don't know that skinning a cat is any less gruesome than slicing a
>> cat, but the version used was a mangled combination of two different
>> idioms.
> 
> And then there's "bell the cat".
> 
> DuckDuckGo says:
> 
> "Bell the cat is an idiomatic phrase that stems from a fable or
> proverb told to provide sound advice. It stems from a story of mice
> attempting to save their homes and lives from a hunting cat upon which
> they want to hang a bell around its neck to warn them of the cat's
> approach. However, the question remains to whom the dangerous task
> will fall."

Indeed.  It's hard to bell the cat whilst draining the swamp.

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1151798

Tony Cooper hat am 04.10.2026 um 17:23 geschrieben:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 10:41:57 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson
> <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Dear alt.usage.english,
>>
>> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
>> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
>> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
>> hand?
> 
> 
> The only reason I can think of to acquire a "knowlege of idioms" is to
> have a source that would provide a more colorful, and succinct, way of
> saying something. 


Foreigners who want to improve their English often need things a native
speaker like you doesn't. Although, a knowledge of cricket and rugby
idioms might help even you when reading some texts of English authors
(wooden spoon), just like a knowledge of baseball idioms might help many
Brits when reading some texts of US authors.

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#1151806

On 10/5/2026 1:46 AM, Silvano wrote:
> Tony Cooper hat am 04.10.2026 um 17:23 geschrieben:
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 10:41:57 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson
>> <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear alt.usage.english,
>>>
>>> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
>>> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
>>> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
>>> hand?
>>
>>
>> The only reason I can think of to acquire a "knowlege of idioms" is to
>> have a source that would provide a more colorful, and succinct, way of
>> saying something.
> 
> 
> Foreigners who want to improve their English often need things a native
> speaker like you doesn't. Although, a knowledge of cricket and rugby
> idioms might help even you when reading some texts of English authors
> (wooden spoon), just like a knowledge of baseball idioms might help many
> Brits when reading some texts of US authors.

And even Englishmen who want to improve their English.  It isn't a one
way street.  I wouldn't mind flipping through a dictionary of idioms in
Icelandic, though as I don't live in Iceland these days, I have rather
little use for it.

I'll keep in mind to add sports expressions to my repertoire of idioms.


Best wishes, and happy idiomatic expressions!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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#1151811

On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 19:46:56 +0200, Silvano
<Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

>Tony Cooper hat am 04.10.2026 um 17:23 geschrieben:
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 10:41:57 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson
>> <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear alt.usage.english,
>>>
>>> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
>>> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
>>> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
>>> hand?
>> 
>> 
>> The only reason I can think of to acquire a "knowlege of idioms" is to
>> have a source that would provide a more colorful, and succinct, way of
>> saying something. 
>
>
>Foreigners who want to improve their English often need things a native
>speaker like you doesn't. Although, a knowledge of cricket and rugby
>idioms might help even you when reading some texts of English authors
>(wooden spoon), just like a knowledge of baseball idioms might help many
>Brits when reading some texts of US authors.
>

I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
terms used, but terms aren't idioms.

To be an idiom, it should be an expression that cannot be understood
from the individual meanings of its components.  

There are many sports terms that don't make sense to people who are
not familiar with that sport, but they are not idioms.  You've got to
know the sport to know what an "edge rusher" (American football), a
"power forward" (basketball), a "shortstop" (baseball), "first slip"
(cricket), "hooker" (rugby), "libero" (volleyball), or a "striker
(soccer) is.  A book on idoms would not explain those terms.


The "wooden spoon" is a historical term, but not an idiom.  It's like
winning an "Oscar".  

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#1151817

On 10/5/2026 3:18 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 19:46:56 +0200, Silvano
> <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:
> 
>> Tony Cooper hat am 04.10.2026 um 17:23 geschrieben:
>>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 10:41:57 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson
>>> <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear alt.usage.english,
>>>>
>>>> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
>>>> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
>>>> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
>>>> hand?
>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I can think of to acquire a "knowlege of idioms" is to
>>> have a source that would provide a more colorful, and succinct, way of
>>> saying something.
>>
>>
>> Foreigners who want to improve their English often need things a native
>> speaker like you doesn't. Although, a knowledge of cricket and rugby
>> idioms might help even you when reading some texts of English authors
>> (wooden spoon), just like a knowledge of baseball idioms might help many
>> Brits when reading some texts of US authors.
>>
> 
> I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
> description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
> terms used, but terms aren't idioms.
> 
> To be an idiom, it should be an expression that cannot be understood
> from the individual meanings of its components.
> 
> There are many sports terms that don't make sense to people who are
> not familiar with that sport, but they are not idioms.  You've got to
> know the sport to know what an "edge rusher" (American football), a
> "power forward" (basketball), a "shortstop" (baseball), "first slip"
> (cricket), "hooker" (rugby), "libero" (volleyball), or a "striker
> (soccer) is.  A book on idoms would not explain those terms.

A book on the sport might, on the one hand.

> The "wooden spoon" is a historical term, but not an idiom.  It's like
> winning an "Oscar".

On the other golf, I've used /on par/ since long before I knew it was a
golfing term.  We sometimes score a goal in things that isn't football.
But that's not too specific to football, as one might score a goal in
knife throwing too.  I guess.

Do you ever kill two birds with one stone?  I admit I have never hunted
birds with a sling.


Best wishes, and happy real life metaphors!
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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#1151820

On 05/10/26 09:50, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>
> Do you ever kill two birds with one stone?  I admit I have never
> hunted birds with a sling.

I've told this story before, but it was before you appeared in AUE, so
I'll repeat it.

The Australian government has a scheme to fix the shortage of doctors in
rural areas. As part of a "skilled migration" program, they steal
doctors from poorer countries, telling them that if they agree to
practice in a rural area the government won't look too closely at their
qualifications. None of this is admitted publicly, of course, but I have
the strong impression that that is what is going on.

Anyway Karuah, a small town north of Newcastle, finally got a doctor.
His doctoring skills were OK, but his English was less than perfect.

At the time my ex-wife was working in a psychiatric hospital in
Newcastle. They got a new patient from Karuah. His clinical notes said
that he was obsessed with killing birds.

rA his first intefivew, he said "Stone the crows! I don't know why they
sent me here". He was discharged at once.

"Stone the crows" is an old-fashioned expression, but can still be heard
from rural speakers.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151826

On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:18:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
>description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
>terms used, but terms aren't idioms.

When cricket commentators speak of a batsman "stepping up to the
plate" I think that's a whole 'nother ball game. 

Stepping up to the plate (or crease is a term; a whole 'nother ball
game is an idiom. 

>To be an idiom, it should be an expression that cannot be understood
>from the individual meanings of its components.  


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#1151857

On 05/10/2026 03:32, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:18:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
>> description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
>> terms used, but terms aren't idioms.
> 
> When cricket commentators speak of a batsman "stepping up to the
> plate" I think that's a whole 'nother ball game.

The batsman might 'step up to the plate' during the Lunch or Tea interval.

(Why oh why do other sports fail to have meal times built into the 
schedule?)>
> Stepping up to the plate (or crease is a term; a whole 'nother ball
> game is an idiom.
> 
>> To be an idiom, it should be an expression that cannot be understood
>>from the individual meanings of its components.  
> 
> 


-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1151862

On 06/10/26 07:32, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 05/10/2026 03:32, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:18:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
>>> description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
>>> terms used, but terms aren't idioms.
>>
>> When cricket commentators speak of a batsman "stepping up to the
>> plate" I think that's a whole 'nother ball game.
>
> The batsman might 'step up to the plate' during the Lunch or Tea interval.
>
> (Why oh why do other sports fail to have meal times built into the
> schedule?)>

There aren't many other sports where a match can last several days.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#1151868

On 05/10/2026 22:57, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 06/10/26 07:32, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 05/10/2026 03:32, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:18:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would differentiate "terms" and "idioms".  To understand a
>>>> description of an event in sports could rquire a knowledge of the
>>>> terms used, but terms aren't idioms.
>>>
>>> When cricket commentators speak of a batsman "stepping up to the
>>> plate" I think that's a whole 'nother ball game.
>>
>> The batsman might 'step up to the plate' during the Lunch or Tea 
>> interval.
>>
>> (Why oh why do other sports fail to have meal times built into the
>> schedule?)>
> 
> There aren't many other sports where a match can last several days.
> 
Bring back timeless Tests.

Played over 12 calendar days, 43 hours and 16 minutes of play, and it 
ended in a draw.

-- 
Sam Plusnet

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#1151799

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> Dear alt.usage.english,
> 
> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
> hand?
> 
> For instance, I have no particular interest in looking at
> 
>    https://www.theidioms.com/
> 
> every day, even though that's probably both free and useful.
> 
> I know books of idioms have been published in Iceland, but as far as I'm
> aware, nobody has suggested one for English.  Where did the Englishmen
> of ages past learn their idioms and expressions?  I certainly hope they
> didn't start with regular expressions in the 15th century.  But that
> would probably have been Chauserian English, of which I don't know much,
> sadly.
> 
> Maybe I'll pick up Chauserian English one of these days, but not today.
> Today I thought to pick up a few more unknown-to-me idioms and express-
> ions of more recent usage.
> 
> So, what do posters of alt.usage.english suggest?

you are soooo narrow minded...

"idioms" is soo passeeeee  

It's called catchphrases, English phrases...certaintly not "idioms".

Learn English first.



https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-idioms/

https://www.google.com/search?q=english+phrases+books&rlz=1C1AJCO_enUS1195US1195&oq=English+idioms+books&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i22i30l7j0i10i22i30j0i22i30.19326j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Or look in Google Books

"English phrases"

https://www.google.com/search?q=English+phrases&sca_esv=fa8fc3aacbaacd94&rlz=1C1AJCO_enUS1195US1195&udm=36&biw=1920&bih=1085&sxsrf=APpeQntOO0Pb-SF7wIecIGiMJahs9byrHg%3A1791134925605&ei=zYzCasbLJIKikPIPz6PdqAM&ved=2ahUKEwiG5vDH8aCXAxUCEUQIHc9RFzUQ4dUDegQIBBAM&oq=English+phrases&gs_lp=EhBnd3Mtd2l6LW1vZGVsZXNzIg9FbmdsaXNoIHBocmFzZXMyDhAAGIAEGIoFGJECGLEDMgsQABiABBiKBRiRAjILEAAYgAQYigUYkQIyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAESIoYUABYAHAAeACQAQCYAVygAVyqAQExuAEMyAEA-AEC-AEBmAIBoAJ3mAMAkgcDMC4xoAehBbIHAzAuMbgHd8IHAzMtMcgHEoAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless

physical books (besides your library near you)
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=English%20Phrases&sts=t&ref_=ds_ac_d_19

or free books (just copy and paste in Google)

site:https://dokumen.pub/ Essential English Phrases
 

Here's an idioms

Fuck it!





















> --
> Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
> I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
> https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
> Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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