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very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode

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  very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 13:24 -0700
    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2015-08-25 13:35 -0800
    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 23:19 +0100
    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-25 17:36 -0500
    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-08-25 19:41 -0400
      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2015-10-26 09:16 -0700
        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-26 09:47 -0700
          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-26 10:00 -0700
            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-26 21:18 +0000
              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-26 17:37 -0400
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-27 19:55 +0000
              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-27 08:31 -0400
              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-27 14:41 -0500
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-27 20:17 +0000
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-28 15:59 -0500
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 19:01 -0700
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-29 13:46 -0500
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 19:37 +0000
            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-26 21:00 -0500
              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-26 19:41 -0700
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-27 07:28 -0700
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-27 12:47 -0700
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-27 20:17 +0000
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:02 +0000
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-28 09:38 +0000
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 07:47 -0700
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-28 19:24 +0000
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 13:42 -0700
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:57 +0000
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:54 +0000
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-30 18:44 +0000
              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-27 15:19 -0500
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-27 18:58 -0500
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-27 17:57 -0700
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-27 17:59 -0700
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-27 18:26 -0700
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-28 14:57 -0500
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-28 14:09 -0600
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-28 15:52 -0500
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-28 15:46 -0500
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-28 15:38 -0500
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 06:06 -0400
                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 01:22 +0000
                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-28 15:22 -0500
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 13:49 -0700
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-28 15:51 -0700
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 19:28 -0700
                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:34 +0000
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-10-28 22:11 +0000
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:59 +0000
                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-30 16:31 +0000
                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-30 20:07 -0700
                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-31 03:57 -0600
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-31 10:20 +0000
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-31 04:51 -0600
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-31 07:08 -0400
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-31 12:29 +0000
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-31 12:04 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-31 06:11 -0600
                                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-31 12:37 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-31 13:20 +0000
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 16:18 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 10:41 -0600
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-31 15:21 +0100
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-10-31 15:13 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-31 12:49 -0500
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:09 -0500
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-01 12:04 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 07:48 -0600
                                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-01 13:56 +0000
                                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-01 18:33 +0000
                                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-02 17:17 +0000
                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-10-31 11:30 +0000
                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 19:15 -0700
                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 02:55 +0000
                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 07:36 -0700
                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 17:19 +0000
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 11:33 -0600
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 19:37 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-29 18:03 -0500
                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-29 11:44 -0600
                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 19:37 +0000
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-29 16:03 -0400
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 14:15 -0600
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 21:51 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-29 15:20 -0700
                                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-30 07:28 -0400
                                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-30 14:57 -0500
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 13:26 -0700
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-29 15:40 -0500
                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-29 15:32 -0700
                                Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 23:10 +0000
                                  Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-29 19:09 -0700
                                    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-30 16:35 +0000
                                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-30 18:35 +0000
                                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-30 12:05 -0700
                                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-30 12:22 -0700
                                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-30 17:31 -0400
                                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-30 17:44 -0400
                                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-30 23:38 -0400
                                        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:08 -0500
                                          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-02 17:17 +0000
                                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-03 16:44 +0000
                                            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-11-05 15:28 -0600
                                              Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-05 17:05 -0500
            Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-26 22:12 +0100
    Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 18:48 -0800
      Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2015-11-25 16:00 +0000
        Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-30 09:43 -0800
          Re: very basic tube questions--twin triode, "mu" rating; heptode floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2015-11-30 10:42 -0900

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#153659

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-10-30 17:44 -0400
Message-ID<n10oc5$cdt$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#153658
On 30/10/2015 5:31 PM, Walter Banks wrote:
> On 30/10/2015 12:35 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-30, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 5:12:39 PM UTC-6, Charlie Gibbs
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be cheating.  We're strictly acoustic.  Come to
>>>> think of it, so are the bluegrass groups I play with.  (Not
>>>> even percussion there.)
>>>
>>> Well, in that case, even though, say, a Hammond B-3, while
>>> timbrally versatile, is at least not a sampling instrument, I
>>> won't try recommending that to you either.
>>
>> I just had a horrible vision of someone trying to horn in on a
>> bluegrass jam with a B-3.  Even though I've seen people show up
>> with a washboard or an accordion, this still give me the shivers.
>>
> Borrow some instruments from Peter Schickele used in in his PDQ Bach
> (1807–1742) concerts.
>
> I don`t what was funnier at one of his concerts the musical humor on
> stage or the two little old ladies sitting behind me expecting to go
> to a Bach concert and hear Bach..
>
> w..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._D._Q._Bach

About half way down is a 11 second recording of a Tromboom. In the
interests of preserving ears, sanity and overall well being you
are advised to limit your listening pleasure to about a second or
two. :)

w..

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#153665

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-30 23:38 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510302336510.4054@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#153658
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Walter Banks wrote:

> On 30/10/2015 12:35 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-30, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 5:12:39 PM UTC-6, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That would be cheating.  We're strictly acoustic.  Come to think of it,
>>>> so are the bluegrass groups I play with.  (Not even percussion there.)
>>> 
>>> Well, in that case, even though, say, a Hammond B-3, while timbrally
>>> versatile, is at least not a sampling instrument, I won't try
>>> recommending that to you either.
>> 
>> I just had a horrible vision of someone trying to horn in on a
>> bluegrass jam with a B-3.  Even though I've seen people show up
>> with a washboard or an accordion, this still give me the shivers.
>> 
> Borrow some instruments from Peter Schickele used in in his PDQ Bach
> (1795-1756) concerts.
>
> I don`t what was funnier at one of his concerts the musical humor on
> stage or the two little old ladies sitting behind me expecting to go to
> a Bach concert and hear Bach..
>
I was once at an evening of "performing arts" put on by the "Asian 
Heritage Festival" here.

At the intermission, a whole lot of people got up and left, presumably 
because they saw the "Asian Heritage" and thought it would be very 
traditional, when the whole point of the festival is to show Asians doing 
their own art.

But yes, the audience was expecting something else, and left when it 
grated with that expectation.

   Michael

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#153702

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-31 15:08 -0500
Message-ID<n13702$l8i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#153658
"Walter Banks" <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote in message 
news:n10nj8$au6$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 30/10/2015 12:35 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-30, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 5:12:39 PM UTC-6, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would be cheating.  We're strictly acoustic.  Come to think of it,
>>>> so are the bluegrass groups I play with.  (Not even percussion there.)
>>>
>>> Well, in that case, even though, say, a Hammond B-3, while timbrally
>>> versatile, is at least not a sampling instrument, I won't try
>>> recommending that to you either.
>>
>> I just had a horrible vision of someone trying to horn in on a
>> bluegrass jam with a B-3.  Even though I've seen people show up
>> with a washboard or an accordion, this still give me the shivers.
>>
> Borrow some instruments from Peter Schickele used in in his PDQ Bach
> (1795-1756) concerts.
>
> I don`t what was funnier at one of his concerts the musical humor on
> stage or the two little old ladies sitting behind me expecting to go to
> a Bach concert and hear Bach..
>


<joke>

Question:  Why did Johann Sebastian Bach have so many children???

Answer:  His organ did not have any stops.

</joke>

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#153796

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-11-02 17:17 +0000
Message-ID<n185qf081d@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#153702
On 2015-10-31, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> "Walter Banks" <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote in message 
> news:n10nj8$au6$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>> On 30/10/2015 12:35 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I just had a horrible vision of someone trying to horn in on a
>>> bluegrass jam with a B-3.  Even though I've seen people show up
>>> with a washboard or an accordion, this still give me the shivers.
>>>
>> Borrow some instruments from Peter Schickele used in in his PDQ Bach
>> (1795-1756) concerts.
>>
>> I don`t what was funnier at one of his concerts the musical humor on
>> stage or the two little old ladies sitting behind me expecting to go to
>> a Bach concert and hear Bach..
>
> <joke>
>
> Question:  Why did Johann Sebastian Bach have so many children???
>
> Answer:  His organ did not have any stops.
>
> </joke>

I went to a Peter Schickele concert 7 or 8 years ago.  The concert was
a bit late starting; finally someone came on stage and apologized that
Peter Schickele had been injured in an accident and wouldn't be able
to appear.  Just then, the stage door burst open and with a cry of
"Wait!  I'm here!" Peter Schickele rolled on stage in a wheelchair
at high speed, pushed by a nurse who stopped him so abruptly that
he tumbled out onto the stage.  The concert then preceded normally -
or about as normally as you might expect.  The first half highlighted
works by PDQ Bach; I had the pleasure of seeing him play the lasso
d'amore that he made famous on his old recordings.  ("Viennese cowboys
twirled their lariats over their heads with such great speed that a
musical pitch was produced.")  The second half consisted of pieces
composed by Schickele himself - quite enjoyable.

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#153863

FromAlfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca>
Date2015-11-03 16:44 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA547637EAF155falkarcabca@213.239.209.88>
In reply to#153796
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in 
news:n185qf081d@news6.newsguy.com:

> On 2015-10-31, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Walter Banks" <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote in message 
>> news:n10nj8$au6$1@speranza.aioe.org... 
>>
>>> On 30/10/2015 12:35 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just had a horrible vision of someone trying to horn in on a
>>>> bluegrass jam with a B-3.  Even though I've seen people show up
>>>> with a washboard or an accordion, this still give me the shivers.
>>>>
>>> Borrow some instruments from Peter Schickele used in in his PDQ Bach
>>> (1795-1756) concerts.
>>>
>>> I don`t what was funnier at one of his concerts the musical humor on
>>> stage or the two little old ladies sitting behind me expecting to go to
>>> a Bach concert and hear Bach.. 
>>
>> <joke>
>>
>> Question:  Why did Johann Sebastian Bach have so many children???
>>
>> Answer:  His organ did not have any stops.
>>
>> </joke>
> 
> I went to a Peter Schickele concert 7 or 8 years ago.  The concert was
> a bit late starting; finally someone came on stage and apologized that
> Peter Schickele had been injured in an accident and wouldn't be able
> to appear.  Just then, the stage door burst open and with a cry of
> "Wait!  I'm here!" Peter Schickele rolled on stage in a wheelchair
> at high speed, pushed by a nurse who stopped him so abruptly that
> he tumbled out onto the stage.  The concert then preceded normally -
> or about as normally as you might expect.  The first half highlighted
> works by PDQ Bach; I had the pleasure of seeing him play the lasso
> d'amore that he made famous on his old recordings.  ("Viennese cowboys
> twirled their lariats over their heads with such great speed that a
> musical pitch was produced.")  The second half consisted of pieces
> composed by Schickele himself - quite enjoyable.

Hmmm... last time I went to a PDQ Bach/Peter Schickele concert was 30 years 
ago.  Seems like his performance style sisn't changed much. I was 
disappointed by all the slapstick stage gags and there seemed to be a 
shortage of musical gags. (I have several PDQ Bach records from 70's so I 
was well acquainted with what Schickele could do.)  My music teacher thought 
that perhaps he was aiming at an audience less knowlegeable than me, and 
that a lot of people wouldn't get the musical jokes. (Talk about setting the 
bar low.)

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#154041

FromJon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu>
Date2015-11-05 15:28 -0600
Message-ID<_cmdnZaC458PVKbLnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#153796
Charlie Gibbs wrote:


> I went to a Peter Schickele concert 7 or 8 years ago.  The concert was
> a bit late starting; finally someone came on stage and apologized that
> Peter Schickele had been injured in an accident and wouldn't be able
> to appear.  Just then, the stage door burst open and with a cry of
> "Wait!  I'm here!" Peter Schickele rolled on stage in a wheelchair
> at high speed,

I was at one in St. Louis, he swung onto stage from a rope suspended from 
the balcony.  It was hilarious, and continued for some time.

Jon

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#154045

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-11-05 17:05 -0500
Message-ID<n1gjqs$a0h$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#154041
On 05/11/2015 4:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>
>> I went to a Peter Schickele concert 7 or 8 years ago.  The concert
>> was a bit late starting; finally someone came on stage and
>> apologized that Peter Schickele had been injured in an accident and
>> wouldn't be able to appear.  Just then, the stage door burst open
>> and with a cry of "Wait!  I'm here!" Peter Schickele rolled on
>> stage in a wheelchair at high speed,
>
> I was at one in St. Louis, he swung onto stage from a rope suspended
> from the balcony.  It was hilarious, and continued for some time.
>

He certainly knew how to make a first impression. I saw one of his rope
entrances as well.

Another one in Hamilton had a "Stage Hand" come on and ask just how long
it would take to get from Toronto airport. He reluctantly decided the
show must go on and sat down to little more than chop sticks. Sirens
outside, door burst open cop in hot pursuit. Schickele running crashed
into the piano on stage and reached up first with one hand the seconds
later the other one and opened the concert.

w..

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#153373

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2015-10-26 22:12 +0100
Message-ID<vih2gc-f84.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#153352
In article <d2f24755-8ce5-4c57-9404-e10496dc4a7c@googlegroups.com>,
 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:16:52 AM UTC-6, tracym...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > I once worked for a company that had one of the last IBM 1130s in commercial 
>> > service (this was in the early 90s). The building was designed to use it as an 
>> > adjunct to the HVAC system in winter. When they wound down their service bureau 
>> > and sold the machine (to the US Army, IIRC), they had to do some non-trivial 
>> > air handling work to keep the place warm.
>> 
>> And note, incidentally, that the IBM 1130 wasn't a vacuum-tube machine. It 
>> wasn't even implemented with discrete transistors: it uses SLT like the 360 
>> with which it was contemporary.
>
>One weekend I went in to work on our S/360 and forgot to turn on the a/c.  It didn't take long
>for the computer room to get very warm.

One good friend's PPOE had several mainframes in a server basement, with
everything redundant; UPS, network, disks and databases with failover at
several layers, and redundant cooling. To conserve the compressors they
ran a little staggered so that one machine in practice took all the load, 
while the other kicked in at +2 degrees. Switch the settings over every three
months, do an emergency test every 6.

My friend was woken up with lots of machines going down during one of these
tests, they were way too cold. Like -40. The emergency test had included a
procedure for running on one AC machine and loop only, and running that one
flat out. Which would have worked sort of well when the mainframes were there.
Except, this time they were not. Well, they were still there, but being shut
down, powered down and being dismantled while the Alpha servers down in a
corner of each room were taking all the transactions. They didn't use
several hundred kilowatts, barely some tens. So the temperature plummeted, 
and only stopped when the AC alarms went off at -40. By which time several
servers had done a controlled shutdown.

>Indeed, I wonder what a modern office consumes in a/c to cool down the PC that sits on
>everyone's desk, plus all the support network gear.

Estimates are that the Internet and the associated servers and fixed machines
went past the airlines in total energy usage in September 2012. At 7% of
our total energy use. In addition you have all the handhelds and the mobile
networks. By now it should be around 9.5% of total measured energy use.

Facebook alone uses around a gigawatt. Apple many times that.

-- mrr

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#154583

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-11-16 18:48 -0800
Message-ID<1eb89755-0f5a-4a19-944f-f445c8230081@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#150402
P.S.

From Buchholz:

The IBM 701 had 4,000 tubes.  60% were type 5965, and 15% were 
type 5867, both twin triodes.  (Remaining 25% diverse types).

The 5965 was liked because of the "large inter-element spacing
between the grid and cathode".

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#154746

FromChris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk>
Date2015-11-25 16:00 +0000
Message-ID<n34ltq$559$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#154583
On 11/17/15 02:48, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> P.S.
>
>  From Buchholz:
>
> The IBM 701 had 4,000 tubes.  60% were type 5965, and 15% were
> type 5867, both twin triodes.  (Remaining 25% diverse types).
>
> The 5965 was liked because of the "large inter-element spacing
> between the grid and cathode".
>

Another reason was that of stability and life, as all those number
based double triodes were mil spec or "trustworthy" versions of the
12AU7, 12AX7 and 12AT7.

There was an IBM ramac machine dumped in a scrapyard in the mid 60's
and loads of other electronics and aviation related kit from Greenham
Common USAF base near Newbury (UK). For a young electronics and
radio geek, just like a sweet shop and spent hours there stripping
out parts. Most of the tubes in the Ramac machine were 6211's and still
have a few somewhere, as well as dozens of wire ended neon lamps. It
was a modular design, with ~1" square x 9: long modules with a single
tube at the handle end, then resistors and caps etc behind that and
finally a B9A plug into the backplane. Interesting days indeed :-)...

Regards,

Chris

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#154762

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-11-30 09:43 -0800
Message-ID<742b0a3b-04fe-4d60-ad51-9bab8e7c8980@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#154746
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 10:59:58 AM UTC-5, Chris wrote:
> > The IBM 701 had 4,000 tubes.  60% were type 5965, and 15% were
> > type 5867, both twin triodes.  (Remaining 25% diverse types).
> > The 5965 was liked because of the "large inter-element spacing
> > between the grid and cathode".
> >
> 
> Another reason was that of stability and life, as all those number
> based double triodes were mil spec or "trustworthy" versions of the
> 12AU7, 12AX7 and 12AT7.

Would anyone know the difference between the 5965 and the 5867?  
Since both were twin triodes, why wasn't just one type used?

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#154763

Fromfloyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson)
Date2015-11-30 10:42 -0900
Message-ID<87610j6zpf.fld@barrow.com>
In reply to#154762
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 10:59:58 AM UTC-5, Chris wrote:
>> > The IBM 701 had 4,000 tubes.  60% were type 5965, and 15% were
>> > type 5867, both twin triodes.  (Remaining 25% diverse types).
>> > The 5965 was liked because of the "large inter-element spacing
>> > between the grid and cathode".
>> >
>>
>> Another reason was that of stability and life, as all those number
>> based double triodes were mil spec or "trustworthy" versions of the
>> 12AU7, 12AX7 and 12AT7.
>
>Would anyone know the difference between the 5965 and the 5867?
>Since both were twin triodes, why wasn't just one type used?

Actually that would be a 5687 vs a 5867.  And apparently
the IBM 701 was initially designed to use only 5965
tubes.

The 5687 tube has twice the plate dissipation rating of
the 5965, and typically would be operated at twice the
plate current.  I suspect the the output tube in the
8-tube modules was modified by replacement with a 5687
to provide better noise characteristics.

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                         http://www.apaflo.com/
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                      floyd@apaflo.com

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