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| First post | 2015-10-09 11:05 -0700 |
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a short history of "False flags" Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 11:05 -0700
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-10 07:08 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-11 00:27 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-11 10:33 -0400
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-12 05:57 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 04:14 -0500
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 03:47 -0500
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-17 06:50 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 04:00 -0500
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-18 07:04 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-13 04:57 +0200
Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-13 05:33 +0200
| From | Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-09 11:05 -0700 |
| Subject | a short history of "False flags" |
| Message-ID | <georgewk10-249331.11050509102015@news.toast.net> |
False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag -- Karma ; what a concept!
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-10 07:08 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d7rkr7Fce9nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269429 |
Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2: > False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to > deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are > being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who > actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during > peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government > agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek > to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses > the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security > force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag some random proposals: Sandy Hook Columbine High Oklahoma city 7/7 9/11 Baader-Meinhoff Pearl Harbour Golf of Tonkin Gleiwitz Radio Station Sarajewo murders Lusitania Titanic Achille Lauro Entebbe Gunpowder plot Boston tea party Laurence of Arabia .. TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-11 00:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d7thm7Frer9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269451 |
Am 10.10.2015 07:08, schrieb Thomas Heger: > Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2: >> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to >> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are >> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who >> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during >> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government >> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek >> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses >> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security >> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1] >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag > > some random proposals: > > > Sandy Hook > > Columbine High > > Oklahoma city > > 7/7 > > 9/11 > > Baader-Meinhoff > > Pearl Harbour > > Golf of Tonkin > > Gleiwitz Radio Station > > Sarajewo murders > > Lusitania > > Titanic > > Achille Lauro > > Entebbe > > Gunpowder plot > > Boston tea party > > Laurence of Arabia > > .. a few more: Francis Drake Boston bombings Troyan horse TH
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| From | BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-11 10:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30843d545825246698c341@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #269502 |
In article <d7thm7Frer9U2@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says... > > Am 10.10.2015 07:08, schrieb Thomas Heger: > > Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2: > >> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to > >> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are > >> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who > >> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during > >> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government > >> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek > >> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses > >> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security > >> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1] > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag > > > > some random proposals: > > > > > > Sandy Hook > > > > Columbine High > > > > Oklahoma city > > > > 7/7 > > > > 9/11 > > > > Baader-Meinhoff > > > > Pearl Harbour > > > > Golf of Tonkin > > > > Gleiwitz Radio Station > > > > Sarajewo murders > > > > Lusitania > > > > Titanic > > > > Achille Lauro > > > > Entebbe > > > > Gunpowder plot > > > > Boston tea party > > > > Laurence of Arabia > > > > .. > > a few more: > > > Francis Drake > > Boston bombings > > Troyan horse > > > > TH More accurately, a list of stuff you have really weird ideas about. -- BDK: Head Government Shill, Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of Remote Viewing. Level 6 expert in kOOkStudies. Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former Black Helicopter color consultant.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-12 05:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d80pd8FlvgbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269545 |
Am 11.10.2015 16:33, schrieb BDK: > In article<d7thm7Frer9U2@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says... >> >> Am 10.10.2015 07:08, schrieb Thomas Heger: >>> Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2: >>>> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to >>>> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are >>>> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who >>>> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during >>>> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government >>>> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek >>>> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses >>>> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security >>>> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1] >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag >>> >>> some random proposals: >>> >>> >>> Sandy Hook >>> >>> Columbine High >>> >>> Oklahoma city >>> >>> 7/7 >>> >>> 9/11 >>> >>> Baader-Meinhoff >>> >>> Pearl Harbour >>> >>> Golf of Tonkin >>> >>> Gleiwitz Radio Station >>> >>> Sarajewo murders >>> >>> Lusitania >>> >>> Titanic >>> >>> Achille Lauro >>> >>> Entebbe >>> >>> Gunpowder plot >>> >>> Boston tea party >>> >>> Laurence of Arabia >>> >>> .. >> >> a few more: >> >> >> Francis Drake >> >> Boston bombings >> >> Troyan horse >> >> >> >> TH > > More accurately, a list of stuff you have really weird ideas about. > Well, actually not. My approach is different: after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my 'knowledge' to other events. Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was? First: Francis Drake used the tactic called 'false flag' to sneak at enemy ships and later sink them. Also the Troyan horse was somehow a 'false flag operation' (by Ithakas special forces). Laurence of Arabia was famous for pretending to be an Arab and doing havoc in this guise to the Ottoman Empire. But how about Baader and Meinhoff? Those were German terrorists in the 70th. In my opinion the story 'smells'. I mean: it doesn't really add up to a convincing story. Would 'false flag' actually do? Difficult question, but 'false flag' (or agents guised as terrorist) is a possibility. And one should think about the plot from the side of the agencies: what could be the benefit (for those agencies)? This is the question: why 'false flag' operations in the first place? Apparently we have different approaches to support similar goals: the totalitarian utopia of Fabian socialist, called 'New World Order'. To achieve this, certain civil rights had to be revoked, democracies weakened and opposing forces eliminated. These opponents are the nations, the religions and the middle-class (aka 'capitalists'). And Baader/Meinhoff did real damage to the German society, since they allowed certain restrictions of liberties, (very much like the aftermath of 9-11). Or how about the 'Gunpowder plot'. Another unconvincing story. Actually more likely the plot was planned from 'inside' (certain parts of the administration), rather than by a single 'terrorist'. From this I have drawn the conclusion, it's a rather bad idea to wear such Guy Fawkes masks within the movement called 'Anonymous'. Actually the plot was to blow up the parliament, hence it was definitely against democracy. Or even this movement 'Anonymous' could be a part from such a 'bad guys network', since they guise themselves as terrorists. TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-12 04:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <teum1b5mvv00p9gb2rpa0978uhajvabrlm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #269567 |
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 05:57:21 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 11.10.2015 16:33, schrieb BDK:
>> In article<d7thm7Frer9U2@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
>>>
>>> Am 10.10.2015 07:08, schrieb Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2:
>>>>> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to
>>>>> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are
>>>>> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who
>>>>> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during
>>>>> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government
>>>>> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek
>>>>> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses
>>>>> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security
>>>>> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1]
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
>>>>
>>>> some random proposals:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandy Hook
>>>>
>>>> Columbine High
>>>>
>>>> Oklahoma city
>>>>
>>>> 7/7
>>>>
>>>> 9/11
>>>>
>>>> Baader-Meinhoff
>>>>
>>>> Pearl Harbour
>>>>
>>>> Golf of Tonkin
>>>>
>>>> Gleiwitz Radio Station
>>>>
>>>> Sarajewo murders
>>>>
>>>> Lusitania
>>>>
>>>> Titanic
>>>>
>>>> Achille Lauro
>>>>
>>>> Entebbe
>>>>
>>>> Gunpowder plot
>>>>
>>>> Boston tea party
>>>>
>>>> Laurence of Arabia
>>>>
>>>> ..
>>>
>>> a few more:
>>>
>>>
>>> Francis Drake
>>>
>>> Boston bombings
>>>
>>> Troyan horse
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> More accurately, a list of stuff you have really weird ideas about.
>>
>
>
>Well, actually not.
>
>My approach is different:
>after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my
>'knowledge' to other events.
>
You have very little knowledge. That's not intended as an insult.
>Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was?
>
There is no actual evidence that it was a false flag.
>First: Francis Drake used the tactic called 'false flag' to sneak at
>enemy ships and later sink them.
>
>Also the Troyan horse was somehow a 'false flag operation' (by Ithakas
>special forces).
>
>Laurence of Arabia was famous for pretending to be an Arab and doing
>havoc in this guise to the Ottoman Empire.
>
>But how about Baader and Meinhoff?
>
>Those were German terrorists in the 70th. In my opinion the story
Your opinion means NOTHING. Stick with the facts.
[Snip the remainder as you opinions are worthless.]
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 07:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d8beq1FcslkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269575 |
Am 12.10.2015 11:14, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag >>>>> >>>>> some random proposals: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sandy Hook >>>>> >>>>> Columbine High >>>>> >>>>> Oklahoma city >>>>> >>>>> 7/7 >>>>> >>>>> 9/11 >>>>> >>>>> Baader-Meinhoff >>>>> >>>>> Pearl Harbour >>>>> >>>>> Golf of Tonkin >>>>> >>>>> Gleiwitz Radio Station >>>>> >>>>> Sarajewo murders >>>>> >>>>> Lusitania >>>>> >>>>> Titanic >>>>> >>>>> Achille Lauro >>>>> >>>>> Entebbe >>>>> >>>>> Gunpowder plot >>>>> >>>>> Boston tea party >>>>> >>>>> Laurence of Arabia >>>>> >>>>> .. >>>> >>>> a few more: >>>> >>>> >>>> Francis Drake >>>> >>>> Boston bombings >>>> >>>> Troyan horse >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> TH >>> >>> More accurately, a list of stuff you have really weird ideas about. >>> >> >> >> Well, actually not. >> >> My approach is different: >> after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my >> 'knowledge' to other events. >> > > You have very little knowledge. That's not intended as an insult. > >> Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was? >> > > There is no actual evidence that it was a false flag. This is actually true, since there have been no flags at all waving on 9/11. So we still wonder, whether or not there have been planes involved. Also the mechanism of destruction is still disputed and a lot of other details. What we actually have not seen is someone convincingly saying: we did it. There were videos of an apparently arabic person, pretending to be Osama bin Laden, who said, they were not responsible. So: no false flag (since there were no flags at all). TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 03:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lce12btfr10ph785b2pf030hsfq9m63ah8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #269692 |
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:03:56 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
[...]
>>> My approach is different:
>>> after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my
>>> 'knowledge' to other events.
>>>
>>
>> You have very little knowledge. That's not intended as an insult.
>>
>>> Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was?
>>>
>>
>> There is no actual evidence that it was a false flag.
>
>
>This is actually true, since there have been no flags at all waving on 9/11.
>
Physical flags do not factor into this.
>So we still wonder, whether or not there have been planes involved.
100% of the available evidence proves there were.
>Also
>the mechanism of destruction is still disputed and a lot of other details.
No, it's not. Only the mentally ill question it.
>
>What we actually have not seen is someone convincingly saying: we did it.
>
Osama Bin Laden did.
>There were videos of an apparently arabic person, pretending to be Osama
>bin Laden, who said, they were not responsible.
At first OBL expressed his natural cowardly nature by denying any
involvement. He later admitted to it.
>
>So: no false flag (since there were no flags at all).
Again, physical flags do not factor into this.
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 06:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d8e2cfF3ifgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269699 |
Am 16.10.2015 10:47, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:03:56 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> > wrote: > > [...] > >>>> My approach is different: >>>> after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my >>>> 'knowledge' to other events. >>>> >>> >>> You have very little knowledge. That's not intended as an insult. >>> >>>> Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was? >>>> >>> >>> There is no actual evidence that it was a false flag. >> >> >> This is actually true, since there have been no flags at all waving on 9/11. >> > > Physical flags do not factor into this. > >> So we still wonder, whether or not there have been planes involved. > > 100% of the available evidence proves there were. > >> Also >> the mechanism of destruction is still disputed and a lot of other details. > > No, it's not. Only the mentally ill question it. I personally assume, that Judy Wood is right and space-base 'scalar wave lasers' have been used, that operate similar to what John Hutchison has invented. So I have a certain opinion and this is apparently, what is now the most 'successful' hypothesis among what you would call 'troofers'. >> >> What we actually have not seen is someone convincingly saying: we did it. >> > > Osama Bin Laden did. > >> There were videos of an apparently arabic person, pretending to be Osama >> bin Laden, who said, they were not responsible. > > At first OBL expressed his natural cowardly nature by denying any > involvement. He later admitted to it. > Someone said something in some video. But the first someone, pretending to be Osama bin Laden, said, they were not involved in this event. Then another bin Laden came and said, they were responsible. But the real Osama bin Laden (allegedly) died before 9/11 2001 of cancer in an US hospital. So: who then have been the people, that pretended to be Osama bin Laden? Astonishingly there exist a proposal for that question, too: "Is Obama really Osama Bin Laden? " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dM08DIEdNU (There are several other videos, pretending to provide proof of this hypothesis,too - even more astonishingly). >> So: no false flag (since there were no flags at all). > > Again, physical flags do not factor into this. > No, wrong, since 'false flag' means: an operation, where soldiers/agents do something in the guise of others (countries, groups, people) and blame that on these people, groups or countries. This is creation of an event under 'false flag'. This would require some kind of guise or material objects, that are symbols or typical behaviours of the group, you try to blame for what they have not done. So some kind of events is necessary, where symbols like flags of other countries are used. Other possibilities are wrong uniforms, masks, wrong names or false ethnicity. Very simple (stupid) example: if your paint you face black and then pretend to be a negro. Or: English soldiers wearing German (Nazi) uniforms and doing something nasty in that guise (at later blame Germany for that). But something physical is necessary, if you want to talk about 'false flag operation'. TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 04:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1h342b5fs9b9o54lqp96rbtu0cuufldqi8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #269722 |
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 06:50:17 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 16.10.2015 10:47, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:03:56 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> My approach is different:
>>>>> after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my
>>>>> 'knowledge' to other events.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have very little knowledge. That's not intended as an insult.
>>>>
>>>>> Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no actual evidence that it was a false flag.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is actually true, since there have been no flags at all waving on 9/11.
>>>
>>
>> Physical flags do not factor into this.
>>
>>> So we still wonder, whether or not there have been planes involved.
>>
>> 100% of the available evidence proves there were.
>>
>>> Also
>>> the mechanism of destruction is still disputed and a lot of other details.
>>
>> No, it's not. Only the mentally ill question it.
>
>
>I personally assume,
Once again, your assumptions are worthless. Stick with the facts.
[Snip the remainder unread as assumptions mean nothing.]
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 07:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d8gnk0Fo1crU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269722 |
Am 17.10.2015 06:50, schrieb Thomas Heger: > No, wrong, since 'false flag' means: an operation, where soldiers/agents > do something in the guise of others (countries, groups, people) and > blame that on these people, groups or countries. > > This is creation of an event under 'false flag'. This would require some > kind of guise or material objects, that are symbols or typical > behaviours of the group, you try to blame for what they have not done. > > So some kind of events is necessary, where symbols like flags of other > countries are used. Other possibilities are wrong uniforms, masks, wrong > names or false ethnicity. > > Very simple (stupid) example: if your paint you face black and then > pretend to be a negro. > > Or: English soldiers wearing German (Nazi) uniforms and doing something > nasty in that guise (at later blame Germany for that). And we HAD quite a few Englishmen, pretending to be German, while wearing a Nazi uniform: http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-British-Solving-History-Series/dp/047311478X TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 04:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d83a9gFb8cjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269567 |
Am 12.10.2015 05:57, schrieb Thomas Heger: > Boston tea party Boston Tea Party was a famous 'flase flag operation'. The members of the 'Sons of Liberty' - guised as Mohawks - have thrown the tea into the harbour of Boston: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 05:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d83cdcFbn2jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #269567 |
Am 12.10.2015 05:57, schrieb Thomas Heger:
>>>>> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to
>>>>> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are
>>>>> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who
>>>>> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during
>>>>> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government
>>>>> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they
>>>>> seek
>>>>> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses
>>>>> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security
>>>>> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1]
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
>>>>
>>>> some random proposals:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandy Hook
>>>>
>>>> Columbine High
>>>>
>>>> Oklahoma city
>>>>
>>>> 7/7
>>>>
>>>> 9/11
>>>>
>>>> Baader-Meinhoff
>>>>
>>>> Pearl Harbour
>>>>
>>>> Golf of Tonkin
>>>>
>>>> Gleiwitz Radio Station
>>>>
>>>> Sarajewo murders
>>>>
>>>> Lusitania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania
The sinking of the Lusitania brought the USA into WW I.
Since we have a lot of ships, that brought the USA into wars, that are
assumed to be 'false flag operations' (Golf of Tonkin for example),
there is a possibility the Lusitania incident also was.
Who actually benefited from the sinking of this ship?
Well, those who wanted to keep the USA out of the war would not do it,
while the others (who wanted Germany to be defeated) were seeking to
lure the USA into the war.
Profiting from the war and British victory would be:
France and Britain
the banks
the military suppliers
Who would loose:
Germany mainly
Turkey
Who had finally lost:
Germany
Turkey
Who won:
France and Britain
So, who had no interest at all in sinking the Lusitania?
Well, most likely Germany would not try to lure Americans into the war.
So: this event is a mayor candidate for 'false flag operation'.
WW I was a mayor disaster in Europe and had cost lots of lives, mostly
British and German, but also a lot of others. It had directly caused
world economic crisis and was a main reason for WW II.
So the profiteers of economic crisis and the destabilisation of the
European nations would have large interest in those wars. Reason would
be the establishment of cartels of banks and of the industry and trade
in those countries, what have lost the war (Ottoman Empire and Germany
mainly). I helped also to create new countries in the middle East
(Syria, Iraq, Jordania, Palestine).
And if the entire war was staged, than the killing of the prince in
Sarajevo could be as well.
This is a typical pattern: a prominent person (Habsburg's prince and his
wife) are killed in public by a 'terrorist'.
But what we don't know for certain: who was killed and who's done it and
why.
So in cases of 'terrorist attacks' we must first verify, that no secret
agents ('James Bond' or alike) have been involved.
Since this is so likely, it must be a proven fact, that the attacker had
no relation to any kind of clandestine organisation or any covered
support or any sort of blackmail happened, unless we are unwilling to
assume, that was not a false flag operation.
Of course the identity of the victims is also of mayor concern. And
unless proven by independent sources, the identity of the victims is
assumed to be different to those of the prominent person.
(Famous examples: Elvis, Michael Jackson, Barbara Olson, the Tzar and
his family ...)
TH
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