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Re: a short history of "False flags"

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Am 11.10.2015 16:33, schrieb BDK:
> In article<d7thm7Frer9U2@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
>>
>> Am 10.10.2015 07:08, schrieb Thomas Heger:
>>> Am 09.10.2015 20:05, schrieb Shoe-Chucker 2:
>>>> False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to
>>>> deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are
>>>> being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who
>>>> actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during
>>>> peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government
>>>> agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek
>>>> to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses
>>>> the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security
>>>> force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1]
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
>>>
>>> some random proposals:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandy Hook
>>>
>>> Columbine High
>>>
>>> Oklahoma city
>>>
>>> 7/7
>>>
>>> 9/11
>>>
>>> Baader-Meinhoff
>>>
>>> Pearl Harbour
>>>
>>> Golf of Tonkin
>>>
>>> Gleiwitz Radio Station
>>>
>>> Sarajewo murders
>>>
>>> Lusitania
>>>
>>> Titanic
>>>
>>> Achille Lauro
>>>
>>> Entebbe
>>>
>>> Gunpowder plot
>>>
>>> Boston tea party
>>>
>>> Laurence of Arabia
>>>
>>> ..
>>
>> a few more:
>>
>>
>> Francis Drake
>>
>> Boston bombings
>>
>> Troyan horse
>>
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> More accurately, a list of stuff you have really weird ideas about.
>


Well, actually not.

My approach is different:
after having studied 9/11 for many years now, I try to apply my 
'knowledge' to other events.

Or: if 9-11 was a big false-flag operation, then what else was?

First: Francis Drake used the tactic called 'false flag' to sneak at 
enemy ships and later sink them.

Also the Troyan horse was somehow a 'false flag operation' (by Ithakas 
special forces).

Laurence of Arabia was famous for pretending to be an Arab and doing 
havoc in this guise to the Ottoman Empire.

But how about Baader and Meinhoff?

Those were German terrorists in the 70th. In my opinion the story 
'smells'. I mean: it doesn't really add up to a convincing story.

Would 'false flag' actually do?

Difficult question, but 'false flag' (or agents guised as terrorist) is 
a possibility. And one should think about the plot from the side of the 
agencies: what could be the benefit (for those agencies)?

This is the question: why 'false flag' operations in the first place?

Apparently we have different approaches to support similar goals: the 
totalitarian utopia of Fabian socialist, called 'New World Order'.

To achieve this, certain civil rights had to be revoked, democracies 
weakened and opposing forces eliminated.  These opponents are the 
nations, the religions and the middle-class (aka 'capitalists').

And Baader/Meinhoff did real damage to the German society, since they 
allowed certain restrictions of liberties, (very much like the aftermath 
of 9-11).

Or how about the 'Gunpowder plot'. Another unconvincing story. Actually 
more likely the plot was planned from 'inside' (certain parts of the 
administration), rather than by a single 'terrorist'.

 From this I have drawn the conclusion, it's a rather bad idea to wear 
such Guy Fawkes masks within the movement called 'Anonymous'. Actually 
the plot was to blow up the parliament, hence it was definitely against 
democracy.

Or even this movement 'Anonymous' could be a part from such a 'bad guys 
network', since they guise themselves as terrorists.


TH

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a short history of "False flags" Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 11:05 -0700
  Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-10 07:08 +0200
    Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-11 00:27 +0200
      Re: a short history of "False flags" BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-10-11 10:33 -0400
        Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-12 05:57 +0200
          Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 04:14 -0500
            Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +0200
              Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 03:47 -0500
                Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-17 06:50 +0200
                Re: a short history of "False flags" "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 04:00 -0500
                Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-18 07:04 +0200
          Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-13 04:57 +0200
          Re: a short history of "False flags" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-13 05:33 +0200

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