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| Started by | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| First post | 2025-05-05 20:44 +1000 |
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Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-05 20:44 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 07:22 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-05-05 14:10 -0600
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-05-05 08:10 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-05 23:01 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-05 23:08 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-05-05 19:02 +0200
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 19:57 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-05 14:22 +0100
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 20:04 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 14:37 +0100
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:30 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:40 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 20:14 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-06 14:05 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-06 11:29 -0500
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-06 17:19 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-06 20:09 -0500
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-07 13:29 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-07 06:08 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-07 23:56 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-05-05 19:01 +0200
Re: Desktop Icon, please. VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-05 12:35 -0500
Re: Desktop Icon, please. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-05-05 19:45 +0200
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 20:22 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-05-06 07:52 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-06 21:59 +1000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-05-06 11:14 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-06 15:49 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-06 17:08 +0100
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-06 17:26 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-06 14:34 +0000
Re: Desktop Icon, please. wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-05-07 10:02 +0100
Re: Desktop Icon, please. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-05-08 22:51 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-05-08 22:53 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-05-09 13:25 +0200
Re: Desktop Icon, please. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-05-16 20:46 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-16 22:20 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-05-17 08:36 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-17 15:06 -0400
Re: Desktop Icon, please. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-05-09 07:29 -0400
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 23:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vvfoqe$1240b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19101 |
On 7/05/2025 12:05 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 6/05/2025 2:30 am, Paul wrote: > [...] >>> No, everything you want to do, is in there. >>> all the required degrees of freedom are there (In the Program Folders >>> and via the vast collection of EXE files). >>> >>> LibreOffice wants to pretend their stuff is a "suite", which is >>> why they make the presentation window the way it is done. >>> >>> ******* >>> >>> Just for fun, use the File Explorer and look in here. >>> Put this string in the File Explorer box at the top. >>> You can keep this open while you work. >>> >>> %AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar >> >> Done >> >> "No items match your search" > > You put it in the 'Search' box (upper-right). You should put it in the > 'path' [1] box, i.e. the box in the middle. O.K., this time (pasting it into the address bar) I got two items .... a "File Explorer" link and a SeaMonkey link and, dragging this SeaMonkey icon to the Desktop got me my clickable link. Thank you. >> Oh, did I forget to mention I'd removed Internet Explorer (or whatever >> it's now called). ;-) > > You can't, so you didn't! :-) > > BTW, the 'Internet Explorer' part is probably just a legacy thingie. > No worries, mate! :-) > > [1] Does someone know the official name of that <beep> box? With an > official reference please. > -- Daniel70
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 19:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7s97iFn04U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19057 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:17 +1000, Daniel70 wrote: > I've downloaded Libreoffice and installed it onto my SSD .... but how do > I get a Desktop icon to start it. Create a shortcut to desktop of this EXE: "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\soffice.exe" -- s|b
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 12:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t5wljih1b61.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #19057 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > As I dual-boot Windows (Win11, in this case) and Linux, and (as far as I > know) you can't get MSOffice for Linux, my preference is to use > Libreoffice on both OSs. > > I've downloaded Libreoffice and installed it onto my SSD .... but how do > I get a Desktop icon to start it. > > Not a 'Start' menu link but an actual icon on my Desktop?? Which of the > 'programs' in the Windows (C:)\Program Files\libreoffice\program > directory do I want to connect to?? It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, anyway.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 19:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m7sbpcF1492U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19080 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 12:35:33 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > It should have added entries in the Start menu. The option is checked by default, but the OP could have unchecked it. -- s|b
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 20:22 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vvcnt1$2nprf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19080 |
On 6/05/2025 3:35 am, VanguardLH wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > >> As I dual-boot Windows (Win11, in this case) and Linux, and (as far as I >> know) you can't get MSOffice for Linux, my preference is to use >> Libreoffice on both OSs. >> >> I've downloaded Libreoffice and installed it onto my SSD .... but how do >> I get a Desktop icon to start it. >> >> Not a 'Start' menu link but an actual icon on my Desktop?? Which of the >> 'programs' in the Windows (C:)\Program Files\libreoffice\program >> directory do I want to connect to?? > > It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a > LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File > Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already > selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select > Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that > folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, > anyway. > Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a Icon on the Desktop. -- Daniel70
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 07:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vvct3n$2shch$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19091 |
On 5/6/2025 6:22 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a
>> LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File
>> Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already
>> selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select
>> Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that
>> folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it,
>> anyway.
>>
> Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a Icon
> on the Desktop.
Or you could just drag that icon to the Desktop. But
with one caveat: A Start Menu icon dragged to the Desktop
will disappear from the SM. A shortcut dragged TO the
SM will copy it. (Just drag the shortcut and hover over the
Start button to open the SM for dropping.)
This has worked since Win95 or so. Though I haven't tried
using the Metro billboard Start Menu. I find it completely
unusable and ridiculous, so it's one of the fist things I fix
when making Win10/11 usable. Nevertheless, I'd guess
the drag/drop still works.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 21:59 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vvctil$2sv44$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19094 |
On 6/05/2025 9:52 pm, Newyana2 wrote: > On 5/6/2025 6:22 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > >>> It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a >>> LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File >>> Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already >>> selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select >>> Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that >>> folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, >>> anyway. >>> >> Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a >> Icon on the Desktop. > > Or you could just drag that icon to the Desktop. But > with one caveat: A Start Menu icon dragged to the Desktop > will disappear from the SM. ... which is exactly what I wanted .... so tried it three times .... and no new icon on my Desktop but still on Start Menu. ;-( -- Daniel70
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 11:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vvd8tp$37b39$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19096 |
On 5/6/2025 7:59 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 6/05/2025 9:52 pm, Newyana2 wrote: >> On 5/6/2025 6:22 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> >>>> It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a >>>> LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File >>>> Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already >>>> selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select >>>> Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in >>>> that >>>> folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, >>>> anyway. >>>> >>> Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a >>> Icon on the Desktop. >> >> Or you could just drag that icon to the Desktop. But >> with one caveat: A Start Menu icon dragged to the Desktop >> will disappear from the SM. > > ... which is exactly what I wanted .... so tried it three times .... and > no new icon on my Desktop but still on Start Menu. ;-( I don't think I've tried it on Win11, but it works fine for me on Win10. And if I right-drag I can choose "Copy Here". However, as noted, I don't use the Metro SM. I have Classic/Open Shell, so my SM is like 9x/XP/7. It's possible that the Metro SM is painting a dysfunctional skin over the real thing. I find the Metro mess so irritating that I really haven't used it at all. It's just too confusing figuring out what I'm looking at with all the irrelevant noise. And it's ugly. It's designed to emulate a cellphone UI, which makes no sense. So I'm not sure that I've ever even seen whatever Metro SM presents as being the Programs menu. I'm hoping that Nadella has the sense to ban the GUI "team" from using cellphones except for emergencies. It doesn't work to have cellphone addicts designing desktop OSs.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 15:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvdi3k.jr8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19096 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 6/05/2025 9:52 pm, Newyana2 wrote: > > On 5/6/2025 6:22 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > > > >>> It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a > >>> LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File > >>> Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already > >>> selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select > >>> Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that > >>> folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, > >>> anyway. > >>> > >> Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a > >> Icon on the Desktop. > > > > Or you could just drag that icon to the Desktop. But > > with one caveat: A Start Menu icon dragged to the Desktop > > will disappear from the SM. > > ... which is exactly what I wanted .... so tried it three times .... and > no new icon on my Desktop but still on Start Menu. ;-( As I mentioned, dragging is a bad idea, because you want a *copy* of the shortcut, not *remove* the shortcut from the (Windows 11) 'Start' menu. So go again to the icon in the 'Start' menu, bug now: right-click -> More -> Open file location. You're now in File Explorer and the desired icon/shortcut is highlighted. So do: right-click -> Show more options -> Copy. Now move your pointer to the Desktop -> right-click -> Paste shortcut. And voila! (N.B. Of course many roads lead to Rome, so this is just one way. For example I would just use Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V to copy/paste.) (N.B.2. This works for normal programs (.exe in 'Program Files' or 'Program Files (x86)'), not for 'Apps' because for those you don't have shortcuts in the 'Start' menu which you can copy. I assume that LibreOffice is still Normal Software(TM).)
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 17:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <m7uqf7FcskiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19105 |
Frank Slootweg wrote: > dragging is a bad idea, because you want a copy of > the shortcut, not remove the shortcut from the (Windows 11) 'Start' > menu. so use ctrl-drag
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 17:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvdnot.lgg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19106 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Frank Slootweg wrote: > > > dragging is a bad idea, because you want a copy of > > the shortcut, not remove the shortcut from the (Windows 11) 'Start' > > menu. > > so use ctrl-drag Yes, that works. But as I said in my other response, I'm not a drag-type of person! :-) So, I rather use some copy/paste method (and (occasionally) cut/paste [1]). [1] For file/folder transfers, I still miss the old 'Move' facility of File Explorer. For that, cut/paste feels counter-intuitive and 'dangerous'.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 14:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvddlt.j28.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19094 |
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote: > On 5/6/2025 6:22 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > > >> It should have added entries in the Start menu. Right-click on a > >> LibreOffice program entry in the Start menu, select More, and then File > >> Location. That opens File Explorer with the program file already > >> selected (highlighted). Right-click on the executable file, and select > >> Create Shortcut. You might be told you cannot create a shortcut in that > >> folder, and to create it on the desktop which is where you want it, > >> anyway. > >> > > Yeap, (with some slight modifications) that did work and created a Icon > > on the Desktop. > > Or you could just drag that icon to the Desktop. But > with one caveat: A Start Menu icon dragged to the Desktop > will disappear from the SM. A shortcut dragged TO the > SM will copy it. (Just drag the shortcut and hover over the > Start button to open the SM for dropping.) Thanks for that! I never dragged anything from the/a Start menu, but if I ever would like to do that, I would indeed use copy/paste instead of drag, because removing an item from the Start menu is not something I would normally like to do. > This has worked since Win95 or so. Though I haven't tried > using the Metro billboard Start Menu. FYI, I just did a drag from the Open-Shell Menu (to the Desktop) and indeed the item was removed from the 'Programs' part of the Open-Shell Menu, so it indeed seems to be generic behaviour. Probably also for the native Windows 11 'Start' menu, but I have not tried that. Thanks again.
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| From | wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 10:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vvf7j7$u31e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19057 |
On 05/05/2025 11:44, Daniel70 wrote: > As I dual-boot Windows (Win11, in this case) and Linux, and (as far as I > know) you can't get MSOffice for Linux, my preference is to use > Libreoffice on both OSs. > > I've downloaded Libreoffice and installed it onto my SSD .... but how do > I get a Desktop icon to start it. > > Not a 'Start' menu link but an actual icon on my Desktop?? Which of the > 'programs' in the Windows (C:)\Program Files\libreoffice\program > directory do I want to connect to?? > > (Note in that folder, there is a file called 'desktophelper.txt' which > contains "# File used for desktop link" ... and that's it. Real Helpful. > ;-) ) > > TIA I don't know if this has been resolved so for Windows 8.1 (I believe you have to extend the first menu in W11) .... Find the .exe of the file, right click, select 'Send to' then 'Desktop (create a shortcut). The right click shows a context menu - because the menu is only relevant to the type of file you clicked on. Shortcuts are just that. They can be created & deleted without affecting the parent application. -- Regards wasbit
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-08 22:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <26rq1k95q0gn0f7emepno8hl4bev0kdppm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #19057 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 5 May 2025 20:44:17 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >As I dual-boot Windows (Win11, in this case) and Linux, and (as far as I >know) you can't get MSOffice for Linux, my preference is to use >Libreoffice on both OSs. > >I've downloaded Libreoffice and installed it onto my SSD .... but how do >I get a Desktop icon to start it. > >Not a 'Start' menu link but an actual icon on my Desktop?? Which of the >'programs' in the Windows (C:)\Program Files\libreoffice\program >directory do I want to connect to?? I'm using C:\Programs\LibreOffice\program\soffice.exe I also have a link for just the text writer, which iirc is swrite.exe. It saves a tiny bit of time to not have to choose which part of LO to run. I think what I"ve done is sometimes is just click on things to see which one starts the program, which ones either appear to do nothing or do something I'm not interested in. > >(Note in that folder, there is a file called 'desktophelper.txt' which >contains "# File used for desktop link" ... and that's it. Real Helpful. >;-) ) > >TIA
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-08 22:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nfrq1k9a9utf95tr0f6uu92sp7cg2476ja@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #19186 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 08 May 2025 22:51:31 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: > >I also have a link for just the text writer, which iirc is swrite.exe. Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-09 13:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m8671bFih78U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #19187 |
On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote: > Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s. It's soffice.exe. -- s|b
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-16 20:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <40nf2kls41qkcm40eki62q5p2ljp3r1817@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #19192 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 09 May 2025 13:25:31 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote: > >> Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s. > >It's soffice.exe. That's the whole package but I was talking about the word processor. One can start that directly and save a few seconds. It's been a couple days now but I thought that was the subject.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-16 22:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1008rpm$5t4g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19281 |
On Fri, 5/16/2025 8:46 PM, micky wrote: > In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 09 May 2025 13:25:31 +0200, "s|b" > <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote: >> >>> Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s. >> >> It's soffice.exe. > > That's the whole package but I was talking about the word processor. One > can start that directly and save a few seconds. It's been a couple days > now but I thought that was the subject. > So when you start writer, what does Task Manager say the name is ? There has to be some whizzy way to figure this out, right ? Looking in the Program Files folder would take all the fun out of it. Paul
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-17 08:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <990h2kt0iffe6c1thrc0r7l1s6u4d9jc3j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #19282 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 16 May 2025 22:20:38 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >On Fri, 5/16/2025 8:46 PM, micky wrote: >> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 09 May 2025 13:25:31 +0200, "s|b" >> <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote: >>> >>>> Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s. >>> >>> It's soffice.exe. >> >> That's the whole package but I was talking about the word processor. One >> can start that directly and save a few seconds. It's been a couple days >> now but I thought that was the subject. >> > >So when you start writer, what does Task Manager say the name is ? Well, I have two icons in my task bar and the popup/tip for one is LibreOffice Writer and for the other LibreOffice Calc. I didn't choose these words, wouldn't know how. And when I start writer, Task Manager just says LibreOffice. >There has to be some whizzy way to figure this out, right ? By looking? >Looking in the Program Files folder would take all the fun out of it. I really want to keep the fun. > Paul
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-17 15:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <100ammr$hjmh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #19296 |
On Sat, 5/17/2025 8:36 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 16 May 2025 22:20:38 -0400, Paul
> <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5/16/2025 8:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 09 May 2025 13:25:31 +0200, "s|b"
>>> <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s.
>>>>
>>>> It's soffice.exe.
>>>
>>> That's the whole package but I was talking about the word processor. One
>>> can start that directly and save a few seconds. It's been a couple days
>>> now but I thought that was the subject.
>>>
>>
>> So when you start writer, what does Task Manager say the name is ?
>
> Well, I have two icons in my task bar and the popup/tip for one is
> LibreOffice Writer and for the other LibreOffice Calc. I didn't choose
> these words, wouldn't know how.
>
> And when I start writer, Task Manager just says LibreOffice.
>
>> There has to be some whizzy way to figure this out, right ?
>
> By looking?
>
>> Looking in the Program Files folder would take all the fun out of it.
>
> I really want to keep the fun.
>
>> Paul
It seems a weird pile of stuff. The EXE are all small (which is OK),
a few of the DLL are pretty large.
$ file *
sbase.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
scalc.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
sdraw.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
senddoc.exe: PE32+ executable (console) x86-64, for MS Windows
simpress.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
smath.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
soffice.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
soffice.bin: PE32+ executable (console) x86-64, for MS Windows
sweb.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
swriter.exe: PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
mergedlo.dll: PE32+ executable (DLL) (console) x86-64, for MS Windows <=== large DLL
I guess I had been looking at it this way. And launching an item from here.
I can open LibreOffice Writer from in here.
explorer shell:appsfolder
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/MTLkfWvF/Libre-Office-Tasks.gif
The swriter task then launches the soffice exe and bin. The bin would
in another environment, be an executable too. The soffice exe seems
to drive the GUI, the soffice.bin is related to the program logic.
When they are launched in a different order (soffice.exe first),
then the swriter.exe is hidden, and my tools don't hint that it is
even being used. (The Process Explorer stack sample, does not even
hint at it, the soffice.exe seems overly curious about my video card
and that is about it). Perhaps this implies that all the EXE are loaded
within the actual boss.
If we were at police headquarters, I would put up a powerpoint slide,
showing a picture of this item, labeled "The Real Gang Leader". Doesn't
drive a fancy car, but is calling the shots. Even though its parent
is soffice.exe, all that soffice.exe has is the OpenGL viewing window
and not the program logic for opening .doc files.
swriter.exe <=== Enough of a wrapper, to launch the other two
soffice.exe <=== GUI render
soffice.bin <=== Program logic, suite members in here
"The Real Gang Leader"
This is almost as bad as working with Firefox Quantum in Windows, and
not having the tasks labeled properly. If you look in Linux, the strings
there hint at the arrangement. The Linux has better labels for
discerning who is the gang leader, and who drives the getaway car.
Paul
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