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Re: Desktop Icon, please.

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Desktop Icon, please.
Date 2025-05-17 15:06 -0400
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On Sat, 5/17/2025 8:36 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 16 May 2025 22:20:38 -0400, Paul
> <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 5/16/2025 8:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Fri, 09 May 2025 13:25:31 +0200, "s|b"
>>> <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 08 May 2025 22:53:32 -0400, micky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Newyana reminds me it's swriter, and he even explains the s. 
>>>>
>>>> It's soffice.exe.
>>>
>>> That's the whole package but I was talking about the word processor. One
>>> can start that directly and save a few seconds.  It's been a couple days
>>> now but I thought that was the subject.  
>>>
>>
>> So when you start writer, what does Task Manager say the name is ?
> 
> Well, I have two icons in my task bar and the popup/tip for one is
> LibreOffice Writer and for the other LibreOffice Calc.  I didn't choose
> these words, wouldn't know how. 
> 
> And when I start writer, Task Manager just says LibreOffice. 
> 
>> There has to be some whizzy way to figure this out, right ?
> 
> By looking? 
> 
>> Looking in the Program Files folder would take all the fun out of it.
> 
> I really want to keep the fun. 
> 
>>   Paul

It seems a weird pile of stuff. The EXE are all small (which is OK),
a few of the DLL are pretty large.

$ file *
sbase.exe:                 PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
scalc.exe:                 PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
sdraw.exe:                 PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
senddoc.exe:               PE32+ executable (console) x86-64, for MS Windows
simpress.exe:              PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
smath.exe:                 PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows

soffice.exe:               PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
soffice.bin:               PE32+ executable (console) x86-64, for MS Windows

sweb.exe:                  PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows
swriter.exe:               PE32+ executable (GUI) x86-64, for MS Windows

mergedlo.dll:              PE32+ executable (DLL) (console) x86-64, for MS Windows   <=== large DLL

I guess I had been looking at it this way. And launching an item from here.
I can open LibreOffice Writer from in here.

    explorer shell:appsfolder

    [Picture]

     https://i.postimg.cc/MTLkfWvF/Libre-Office-Tasks.gif

The swriter task then launches the soffice exe and bin. The bin would
in another environment, be an executable too. The soffice exe seems
to drive the GUI, the soffice.bin is related to the program logic.

When they are launched in a different order (soffice.exe first),
then the swriter.exe is hidden, and my tools don't hint that it is
even being used. (The Process Explorer stack sample, does not even
hint at it, the soffice.exe seems overly curious about my video card
and that is about it). Perhaps this implies that all the EXE are loaded
within the actual boss.

If we were at police headquarters, I would put up a powerpoint slide,
showing a picture of this item, labeled "The Real Gang Leader". Doesn't
drive a fancy car, but is calling the shots. Even though its parent
is soffice.exe, all that soffice.exe has is the OpenGL viewing window
and not the program logic for opening .doc files.

   swriter.exe      <=== Enough of a wrapper, to launch the other two
      soffice.exe     <=== GUI render
         soffice.bin     <=== Program logic, suite members in here
                              "The Real Gang Leader"

This is almost as bad as working with Firefox Quantum in Windows, and
not having the tasks labeled properly. If you look in Linux, the strings
there hint at the arrangement. The Linux has better labels for
discerning who is the gang leader, and who drives the getaway car.

  Paul

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