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| First post | 2025-03-30 07:24 -0400 |
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A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:24 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 05:00 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 15:28 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 22:42 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 08:05 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 12:46 +0000
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 11:07 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 14:59 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:00 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 11:15 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 14:56 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:03 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 05:24 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-01 09:30 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-02 05:39 +0100
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 12:12 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:10 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 13:49 +0000
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-31 09:21 +0000
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 07:05 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 09:09 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 12:57 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 13:55 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 21:50 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 22:59 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 08:45 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 18:00 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 20:17 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-06 22:19 -0400
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 11:13 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 11:23 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:23 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 01:59 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 09:01 -0700
Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 20:34 -0700
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 07:24 -0400 |
| Subject | A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered |
| Message-ID | <HR9GP.239153$bYQ4.223458@fx41.iad> |
<https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered. The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the Microsoft Account requirement. Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged. While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, but that's a much longer and tedious process. But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze. Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first. The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central) The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before being asked to specify your privacy settings. We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before landing on the desktop. This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around! While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so use it while you can! -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 05:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsbbpn$2hf7l$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18070 |
On 3/30/25 4:24 AM, CrudeSausage wrote: > <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better- > microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered> > > Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular > command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and > signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. > > Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and > Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody > wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered. > > The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the > command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a > button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the > Microsoft Account requirement. > > Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users > to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during > the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged. > > While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that > enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least > not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, > but that's a much longer and tedious process. > > But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been > discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with > Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a > total breeze. > > Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start ms- > cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup > experience will allow you to create a local account directly without > needing to skip connecting to the internet first. > > The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows > 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central) > The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets > you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, > clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before > being asked to specify your privacy settings. > > We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and > can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared > to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and > to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before > landing on the desktop. > > This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end > of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks > you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around! > > While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that > Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often > going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so > use it while you can! It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you are on a domain.
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 15:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vscghi$2ikem$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18072 |
T wrote on 3/30/2025 5:00 AM: >> >> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular >> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet >> and signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. > > It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you > are on a domain. > Left out a fews critical pieces of necessary information. => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided options -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 22:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsda05$3g059$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18082 |
On 3/30/25 3:28 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: > T wrote on 3/30/2025 5:00 AM: >>> >>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular >>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet >>> and signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on >>> Windows 11. > >> >> It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you >> are on a domain. >> > > Left out a fews critical pieces of necessary information. > > => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU > => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided options you are correct. I can't stand the home edition, so when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them get the pro version. So I often forget about the home edition. And a lot of my customers opt for Tiny 11 when they hear the difference.
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 08:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vse0c0$7lrq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18088 |
On 3/31/2025 1:42 AM, T wrote: >> => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU >> => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided options > > > you are correct. I can't stand the home edition, so > when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them > get the pro version. So I often forget about the > home edition. > I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker, and don't know of anything else I'm missing. But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I choose the option to not allow updates while installing and just do it offline. Is that no longer available?
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 12:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vse9rb.17i0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18101 |
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote: [...] > I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro > for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker, > and don't know of anything else I'm missing. > > But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to > Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I > choose the option to not allow updates while installing and > just do it offline. Is that no longer available? I also had no problem. I used a similar disconnect from the network at the right time (just before "Who is going to use this device?"), but that was two and a half years ago. Also: It used to be possible to convert a Microsoft Account to a local account. I used this on Windows 8.1 [1] when some app install had tricked me into switching my local account into a Microsoft Account. Is that no longer possible (in Windows 10/11)? [1] It got the info from <https://www.technorms.com/30853/switch-between-local-and-microsoft-accounts> but that's a dead link. If needed/wanted, I can post my notes of what I did.
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 11:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vselkf$to05$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18101 |
Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 5:05 AM:
> On 3/31/2025 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>
>>> => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU
>>> => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided options
>>
>>
>> you are correct. I can't stand the home edition, so
>> when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them
>> get the pro version. So I often forget about the
>> home edition.
>>
>
> I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro
> for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker,
> and don't know of anything else I'm missing.
>
> But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to
> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I
> choose the option to not allow updates while installing and
> just do it offline. Is that no longer available?
>
<qp>
We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance
security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all
users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
</qp>
cf.
<https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/03/28/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26200-5516-dev-channel/>
The change in 24H2 noted in above Insider article eliminates the no
internet connection(i.e. ethernet not connected, wifi disabled via router
etc.) method.
- the current discussion in the Enterprise community appears to
indicate this change removes the build code(script) in Windows 24H2 that
calls the registry values that permitted use of the 'no internet
connection' for creating a local account => script removed, registry
values remain intact
- that same discussion also indicates that other methods may still be
available.
a. the one noted earlier(choose domain option route) in this thread for
Pro/Enterprise/Edu SKU's
b. the possibility of command line approach by manually entering the
following commands to achieve the same functionality as the now-removed
script
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v
BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
shutdown /r /t 0
c. Pausing setup at the Secondary Layout Screen and use the Developer
Console(entering a restart command and executing the command), exit the
Developer Console to a refreshed Secondary Layout Screen with the Win10-
style Local Account setup option
WinJS.Application.restart("ms-cxh://LOCALONLY")
Note: yymv if MSFT, in the future, if code changes to Windows 11 24H2
removes the ability for any or all the above methods(a, b, c)
--
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 14:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vseok1$10usk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18115 |
On 3/31/2025 2:07 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 5:05 AM:
>> On 3/31/2025 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>
>>>> => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU
>>>> => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided
>>>> options
>>>
>>>
>>> you are correct. I can't stand the home edition, so
>>> when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them
>>> get the pro version. So I often forget about the
>>> home edition.
>>>
>>
>> I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro
>> for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker,
>> and don't know of anything else I'm missing.
>>
>> But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to
>> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I
>> choose the option to not allow updates while installing and
>> just do it offline. Is that no longer available?
>>
>
> <qp>
> We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance
> security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all
> users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
> </qp>
>
> cf.
> <https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/03/28/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26200-5516-dev-channel/>
>
>
> The change in 24H2 noted in above Insider article eliminates the no
> internet connection(i.e. ethernet not connected, wifi disabled via
> router etc.) method.
> - the current discussion in the Enterprise community appears to
> indicate this change removes the build code(script) in Windows 24H2 that
> calls the registry values that permitted use of the 'no internet
> connection' for creating a local account => script removed, registry
> values remain intact
> - that same discussion also indicates that other methods may still be
> available.
> a. the one noted earlier(choose domain option route) in this thread
> for Pro/Enterprise/Edu SKU's
>
> b. the possibility of command line approach by manually entering the
> following commands to achieve the same functionality as the now-removed
> script
> reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v
> BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
> shutdown /r /t 0
>
> c. Pausing setup at the Secondary Layout Screen and use the Developer
> Console(entering a restart command and executing the command), exit the
> Developer Console to a refreshed Secondary Layout Screen with the Win10-
> style Local Account setup option
> WinJS.Application.restart("ms-cxh://LOCALONLY")
>
> Note: yymv if MSFT, in the future, if code changes to Windows 11 24H2
> removes the ability for any or all the above methods(a, b, c)
>
Thanks. I expect I'll have to thoroughly research this if
and when I build another system.
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vses8v$14t9k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18123 |
Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 11:59 AM:
> On 3/31/2025 2:07 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 5:05 AM:
>>> On 3/31/2025 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>
>>>>> => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU
>>>>> => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided
>>>>> options
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you are correct. I can't stand the home edition, so
>>>> when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them
>>>> get the pro version. So I often forget about the
>>>> home edition.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro
>>> for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker,
>>> and don't know of anything else I'm missing.
>>>
>>> But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to
>>> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I
>>> choose the option to not allow updates while installing and
>>> just do it offline. Is that no longer available?
>>>
>>
>> <qp>
>> We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance
>> security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that
>> all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
>> </qp>
>>
>> cf.
>> <https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/03/28/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26200-5516-dev-channel/>
>>
>>
>> The change in 24H2 noted in above Insider article eliminates the no
>> internet connection(i.e. ethernet not connected, wifi disabled via
>> router etc.) method.
>> - the current discussion in the Enterprise community appears to
>> indicate this change removes the build code(script) in Windows 24H2
>> that calls the registry values that permitted use of the 'no internet
>> connection' for creating a local account => script removed, registry
>> values remain intact
>> - that same discussion also indicates that other methods may still be
>> available.
>> a. the one noted earlier(choose domain option route) in this thread
>> for Pro/Enterprise/Edu SKU's
>>
>> b. the possibility of command line approach by manually entering the
>> following commands to achieve the same functionality as the now-removed
>> script
>> reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v
>> BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
>> shutdown /r /t 0
>>
>> c. Pausing setup at the Secondary Layout Screen and use the Developer
>> Console(entering a restart command and executing the command), exit the
>> Developer Console to a refreshed Secondary Layout Screen with the
>> Win10- style Local Account setup option
>> WinJS.Application.restart("ms-cxh://LOCALONLY")
>>
>> Note: yymv if MSFT, in the future, if code changes to Windows 11 24H2
>> removes the ability for any or all the above methods(a, b, c)
>>
> Thanks. I expect I'll have to thoroughly research this if
> and when I build another system.
Also, atm, it's unclear(different reports) about retaining the registry
value. Four different pieces of feedback indicate different scenarios for
these two items on Win11 24H2
1. Registry value present
2. Registry value not present
Discussion on the above centers on the use of the script.
- script(first use) creates registry values when BypassNRO method is used
- script after having been used in the past, Windows retains registry
values
- no prior use of the script, no registry value present.
- no prior use of the script, registry value present
The variation around those four has too many possibilities when one
considers the source of the Windows image placed on the device
- BYO with media (clean install)
- BYO by an OEM system builder (clean install with setup b/f system
delivery but with a Local Account created
- OEM built device for consumers
- OEM built device for business
i.e. the OOBE experience can/may be different
--
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 11:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsem3e$ph1f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18101 |
On 3/31/25 5:05 AM, Newyana2 wrote: > I've updated to > Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged That was my trick. But M$ caught on to it and insists now. This is one of the reason I adore Tiny-11. No Bull S***!
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-31 14:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vseofm$10usk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18117 |
On 3/31/2025 2:15 PM, T wrote: > On 3/31/25 5:05 AM, Newyana2 wrote: >> I've updated to >> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged > > That was my trick. But M$ caught on to it and insists now. > > This is one of the reason I adore Tiny-11. No Bull S***! Are you builing it yourself with scripts or downloading? I've come across several options, but no complete list. The github site listys what's not in it, but I've already removed all those things. It doesn't explain details like why it doesn't require an MS account. I guess I must have got in under the wire. The latest box I built was only 2 months ago. At the time I had no trouble just leaving it unplugged. It's very creepy to think that I might pay for software that won't work unless I let it call home and give them personal info.
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-03-31 13:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsesfh$154n5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18122 |
Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 11:56 AM: > On 3/31/2025 2:15 PM, T wrote: >> On 3/31/25 5:05 AM, Newyana2 wrote: >>> I've updated to >>> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged >> >> That was my trick. But M$ caught on to it and insists now. >> >> This is one of the reason I adore Tiny-11. No Bull S***! > > Are you builing it yourself with scripts or downloading? I've > come across several options, but no complete list. The github > site listys what's not in it, but I've already removed all those > things. It doesn't explain details like why it doesn't require an MS > account. > > I guess I must have got in under the wire. The latest box > I built was only 2 months ago. At the time I had no trouble > just leaving it unplugged. It's very creepy to think that I > might pay for software that won't work unless I let it call > home and give them personal info. Under the wire? The change was released in the Insider Dev build. => roll out to all 24H2 devices will(like in the past) be a staged deployment. i.e. under the wire, atm, is a moving target for both consumer and business SKU's -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-01 05:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsglt9$ph1f$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18122 |
On 3/31/25 11:56 AM, Newyana2 wrote: > On 3/31/2025 2:15 PM, T wrote: >> On 3/31/25 5:05 AM, Newyana2 wrote: >>> I've updated to >>> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged >> >> That was my trick. But M$ caught on to it and insists now. >> >> This is one of the reason I adore Tiny-11. No Bull S***! > > Are you builing it yourself with scripts or downloading? I've > come across several options, but no complete list. The github > site listys what's not in it, but I've already removed all those > things. It doesn't explain details like why it doesn't require an MS > account. > > I guess I must have got in under the wire. The latest box > I built was only 2 months ago. At the time I had no trouble > just leaving it unplugged. It's very creepy to think that I > might pay for software that won't work unless I let it call > home and give them personal info. https://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/what-is-tiny11-install-tiny-windows-11-to-lightweight-your-os/ https://archive.org/details/tiny11-2311 https://archive.org/download/tiny11-2311
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-04-01 09:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vsgpnv$378u5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18153 |
On 4/1/2025 8:24 AM, T wrote:
>
> https://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/what-is-tiny11-install-tiny-windows-11-to-lightweight-your-os/
>
> https://archive.org/details/tiny11-2311
> https://archive.org/download/tiny11-2311
That first one is informative, but what I was hoping for
is a more technical description of *exactly* what's different.
The list of what's removed is a partial list of what I've
already removed, but I'm guessing there are more under-the-
hood changes. For example, the matter at hand: Installing
without an MS account.
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| From | Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-02 05:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vsifod$1uluq$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #18082 |
> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular > command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet > and signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on > Windows 11. Not a big deal. There is nothing in this because it was the official script from Microsoft and you can still see it on your Windows 11 at this link on your machine: <"C:\Windows\System32\oobe\BypassNRO.cmd"> It is a script so DON'T Click on it but just go to the folder and open in Notepad to see what is in it. You will find it is a very simple script that anyone can still type it out when installing Windows 11. It is just this in the script: > @echo off > reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f > shutdown /r /t 0 Microsoft has stopped putting that script in the Insider's Version but users can still type it out by pressing Shift+F10 at the time of installing windows 11 or use the simple version posted by "Wither OrNot" on <https://x.com/witherornot1337/status/1906050664741937328>. Please also note that the Insider's build is just that. It is not the final version and you should expect many changes by the time 25H2 is released by November.
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| From | Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 12:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered |
| Message-ID | <MPG.425488ec968593f39903d2@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #18072 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:54 -0700, T wrote: > > It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you > are on a domain. And it doesn't check? -- Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/ Shikata ga nai...
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| From | ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 13:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vsesrr$15gh4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18127 |
Stan Brown wrote on 3/31/2025 12:12 PM: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:54 -0700, T wrote: >> >> It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you >> are on a domain. > > And it doesn't check? > Using the domain method and not joining provides the ability to create a local account. i.e. when setting up one chooses the work option , a subsequent screen provides Sign-in option to choose Domain Join, once chosen that is followed by another screen that provides the ability to setup a local account. - i.e. use the Domain Join option but don't join the domain by setting up a Local Account. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 13:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vsbi5a$1ib72$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18070 |
On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: ><https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered> > > Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular > command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and > signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. > > Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and > Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody > wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered. > > The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the > command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a > button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the > Microsoft Account requirement. > > Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users > to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during > the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged. > > While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that > enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least > not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, > but that's a much longer and tedious process. > > But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been > discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with > Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a > total breeze. > > Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start > ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup > experience will allow you to create a local account directly without > needing to skip connecting to the internet first. > > The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows > 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central) > The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets > you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, > clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before > being asked to specify your privacy settings. > > We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and > can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared > to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and > to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before > landing on the desktop. > > This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end > of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks > you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around! > > While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that > Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often > going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so > use it while you can! The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple of weeks ago. All the others, fake emails etc failed to work. The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows. At least until they screw with that as well. -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 09:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvuknk1.6ke.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #18075 |
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.] On 2025-03-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: > On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >><https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered> >> >> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular >> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. >> >> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and >> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody >> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered. >> >> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the >> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a >> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the >> Microsoft Account requirement. >> >> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users >> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during >> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged. >> >> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that >> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least >> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, >> but that's a much longer and tedious process. >> >> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been >> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with >> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a >> total breeze. >> >> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start >> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup >> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without >> needing to skip connecting to the internet first. >> >> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows >> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central) >> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets >> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, >> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before >> being asked to specify your privacy settings. >> >> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and >> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared >> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and >> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before >> landing on the desktop. >> >> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end >> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks >> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around! >> >> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that >> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often >> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so >> use it while you can! > > The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple > of weeks ago. > All the others, fake emails etc failed to work. > > The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows. > At least until they screw with that as well. > > > Which they will. These workarounds is just backing yourself into a corner. They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision. No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship. Abandon Windows now.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 07:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vsdstk$3sur$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #18097 |
On Mon, 3/31/2025 5:21 AM, Borax Man wrote: > ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.] > On 2025-03-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered> >>> >>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular >>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11. >>> >>> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and >>> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody >>> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered. >>> >>> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the >>> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a >>> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the >>> Microsoft Account requirement. >>> >>> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users >>> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during >>> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged. >>> >>> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that >>> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least >>> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, >>> but that's a much longer and tedious process. >>> >>> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been >>> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with >>> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a >>> total breeze. >>> >>> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start >>> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup >>> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without >>> needing to skip connecting to the internet first. >>> >>> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows >>> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central) >>> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets >>> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, >>> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before >>> being asked to specify your privacy settings. >>> >>> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and >>> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared >>> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and >>> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before >>> landing on the desktop. >>> >>> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end >>> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks >>> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around! >>> >>> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that >>> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often >>> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so >>> use it while you can! >> >> The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple >> of weeks ago. >> All the others, fake emails etc failed to work. >> >> The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows. >> At least until they screw with that as well. >> >> >> > > Which they will. These workarounds is just backing yourself into a > corner. They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to > use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision. > No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship. Abandon Windows now. > Computing still works. SuperPI 1.5xs is still as fast as it ever was :-) 6:53 for 32 million digits of PI. 16MB of L3. 4635 Mhz 6:30 for 32 million digits of PI. 64MB of L3. 5050 Mhz One of the two machines has an MSA. Must be the slow one :-) I used to compare the OSes on that benchmark, but the machine I used to use for that died (blown southbridge), so I can no longer compare them. I used to compare them from WinXP to Win10. Maybe Windows 7 was a few seconds faster. But there was not a progression of "our latest OS is our best OS". Most of the Microsoft "tricks" and "ploys" are pointless, but it makes them happy I guess. I don't find myself buying "XBox GamePass?" just because a Notification popped up in my face. I don't have an XBox, and it's hard to say how a single notification would turn me into a "rental gamer". My last copy of Microsoft Office here, was bought in 1999, when I was still working. And I won't need an AI to help me write a ransom note. "Clippy" https://uncyclopedia.com/w/images/b/b3/Mainscreen1.jpg Paul
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