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Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered

From ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered
Date 2025-03-31 13:00 -0700
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Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 11:59 AM:
> On 3/31/2025 2:07 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote on 3/31/2025 5:05 AM:
>>> On 3/31/2025 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>
>>>>>    => Requires Pro, Enterprise or Edu SKU
>>>>>    => Don't join the domain and pay attention to the the provided 
>>>>> options
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you are correct.  I can't stand the home edition, so
>>>> when I assist someone with a new computer, I have them
>>>> get the pro version.  So I often forget about the
>>>> home edition.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   I use only Home, since it's essentially the same as Pro
>>> for less money. I add a copy of gpedit, don't use bitlocker,
>>> and don't know of anything else I'm missing.
>>>
>>>    But I'm wondering about all this fretting. I've updated to
>>> Win11 three times and just left the ethernet unplugged. I
>>> choose the option to not allow updates while installing and
>>> just do it offline. Is that no longer available?
>>>
>>
>> <qp>
>> We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance 
>> security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that 
>> all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
>> </qp>
>>
>> cf.
>> <https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/03/28/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26200-5516-dev-channel/> 
>>
>>
>> The change in 24H2 noted in above Insider article eliminates the no 
>> internet connection(i.e. ethernet not connected, wifi disabled via 
>> router etc.) method.
>>   - the current discussion in the Enterprise community appears to 
>> indicate this change removes the build code(script) in Windows 24H2 
>> that calls the  registry values that permitted use of the 'no internet 
>> connection' for creating a local account => script removed, registry 
>> values remain intact
>>   - that same discussion also indicates that other methods may still be 
>> available.
>>   a. the one noted earlier(choose domain option route) in this thread 
>> for Pro/Enterprise/Edu SKU's
>>
>>   b. the possibility of command line approach by manually entering the 
>> following commands to achieve the same functionality as the now-removed 
>> script
>>   reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v 
>> BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
>>   shutdown /r /t 0
>>
>>   c. Pausing setup at the Secondary Layout Screen and use the Developer 
>> Console(entering a restart command and executing the command), exit the 
>> Developer Console to a refreshed Secondary Layout Screen with the 
>> Win10- style Local Account setup option
>>    WinJS.Application.restart("ms-cxh://LOCALONLY")
>>
>> Note: yymv if MSFT, in the future, if code changes to Windows 11 24H2 
>> removes the ability for any or all the above methods(a, b, c)
>>
>      Thanks. I expect I'll have to thoroughly research this if
> and when I build another system.

Also, atm, it's unclear(different reports) about retaining the registry 
value. Four different pieces of feedback indicate different scenarios for 
these two items on Win11 24H2
  1. Registry value present
  2. Registry value not present

Discussion on the above centers on the use of the script.
  - script(first use) creates registry values when BypassNRO method is used
  - script after having been used in the past, Windows retains registry 
values
  - no prior use of the script, no registry value present.
  - no prior use of the script, registry value present

The variation around those four has too many possibilities when one 
considers the source of the Windows image placed on the device
  - BYO with media (clean install)
  - BYO by an OEM system builder (clean install with setup b/f system 
delivery but with a Local Account created
  - OEM built device for consumers
  - OEM built device for business
  i.e. the OOBE experience can/may be different

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:24 -0400
  Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 05:00 -0700
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 15:28 -0700
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 22:42 -0700
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 08:05 -0400
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 12:46 +0000
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 11:07 -0700
            Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 14:59 -0400
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:00 -0700
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 11:15 -0700
            Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-31 14:56 -0400
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:03 -0700
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 05:24 -0700
                Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-01 09:30 -0400
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    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been   discovered Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 12:12 -0700
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:10 -0700
  Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 13:49 +0000
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-31 09:21 +0000
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 07:05 -0400
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 09:09 -0400
  Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 12:57 -0400
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 13:55 -0400
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 21:50 -0400
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 22:59 -0400
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 08:45 -0400
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 18:00 -0400
            Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 20:17 -0400
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-06 22:19 -0400
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 11:13 -0700
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-31 11:23 -0700
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:23 -0700
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 01:59 -0700
            Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 09:01 -0700
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-01 20:34 -0700

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