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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-02-18 17:48 -0500 |
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Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 17:48 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-02-19 00:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 20:01 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall me <invalid@invalid.org> - 2025-02-18 20:48 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 21:03 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:21 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 10:20 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 11:35 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 11:51 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 12:03 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 17:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 16:04 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-24 05:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-24 08:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-24 10:02 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 01:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:20 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-20 21:17 +0100
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 18:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 04:30 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 05:20 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-19 12:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 07:26 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-19 12:30 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 09:24 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-20 21:18 +0100
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-20 15:49 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-20 16:49 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-20 17:19 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 02:03 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 21:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 13:50 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 09:16 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:23 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 15:30 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 10:36 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 11:36 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 22:10 +1100
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-10 18:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-10 14:43 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 16:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-12 23:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 03:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-14 19:50 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-12 21:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) - 2025-02-19 19:08 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 14:26 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:00 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 15:01 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-20 21:30 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-20 07:24 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-19 13:01 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall George Ruch <george.ruch74@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 15:25 -0600
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-03-10 16:56 -0500
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-11 01:46 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-11 08:25 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-11 12:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-11 11:06 -0400
Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-10 21:04 -0400
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 14:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IQGzP.106341$Pbo3.31378@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #17661 |
On 2025-03-10 2:10 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >>> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>> the only option. >>> >>> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. >> >> "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! > > > And companies refuse to try anything else. Companies HAVE tried something else. In fact, in my own field, school boards have tried Linux. I asked about it a while back and the story was always the same: networking was a nightmare as was support. It wasn't a lack of knowledge from the techs either, too many problems surfaced for them and they decided that the payoff wasn't worth the cost. The more reasonable approach for them was to deploy LibreOffice on Windows computers, but even that was a disaster as the teachers insisted on using Microsoft Office for whatever reason, even when it wasn't available to them on a given computer. Formatting issues seems to have been the biggest gripe, especially among math teachers. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 16:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <q0kusjl4gsipufhkmmlbko7coueoqd52dd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #17661 |
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >>> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >> >>>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>> the only option. >>> >>> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. >> >> "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! > >And companies refuse to try anything else. You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so young at heart. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 23:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvt44pp.3c0ba.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #17668 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 20:49 this Monday (GMT): > candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> > wrote: >>Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >>> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >>>> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>>>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>>>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>>> the only option. >>>> >>>> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. >>> >>> "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >>> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >>> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >>> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! >> >>And companies refuse to try anything else. > > > You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to > the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing > with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so > young at heart. Thanks I think -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 03:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3e15tjp5ck2o4papnangq68g05rmtmoih7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #17730 |
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 20:49 this Monday (GMT): >> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> >> wrote: >>>Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >>>> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >>>>> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>>>>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>>>>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>>>> the only option. >>>>> >>>>> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. >>>> >>>> "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >>>> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >>>> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >>>> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! >>> >>>And companies refuse to try anything else. >> >> You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to >> the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing >> with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so >> young at heart. > >Thanks I think Yeah, sorry, I do get carried away being a character, but in seriousness you are a pro. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 19:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvt91np.6d65.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #17736 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 07:16 this Thursday (GMT): > candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> > wrote: >>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 20:49 this Monday (GMT): >>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> >>> wrote: >>>>Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote at 11:10 this Friday (GMT): >>>>> On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46?PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>>>>>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>>>>>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>>>>>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>>>>>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>>>>>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>>>>>> the only option. >>>>>> >>>>>> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. >>>>> >>>>> "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows >>>>> and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary >>>>> School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life >>>>> .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! >>>> >>>>And companies refuse to try anything else. >>> >>> You being a younger Linux enthusiast are vital to the community and to >>> the effort. You are where the rubber meets the road, in competing >>> with M$, and I do the same as a middle-aged person, because I'm so >>> young at heart. >> >>Thanks I think > > > Yeah, sorry, I do get carried away being a character, but in > seriousness you are a pro. Maybe not a /pro/, but I do have some experience with Linux. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 21:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vqtbgg$2tc1f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17323 |
On Fri, 2/21/2025 6:10 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 20/02/2025 12:50 am, Tyrone wrote: >> On Feb 18, 2025 at 9:17:46 PM EST, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > > <Snip> > >>> Running Windows in a VM is one thing, I'm using Wine as I type >>> this to run Forte Agent as my preferred NNTP client, under Linux, >>> but putting Win11 on bare metal just makes no sense, unless you >>> have very recent hardware. M$ is not supporting stuff for long, >>> even Win10 realistically requires a certain threshold to perform >>> well, and 11 is just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is >>> the only option. >> >> Linux is AN option. Certainly not the best for most users. > > "Certainly not the best for most users" ..... because they have Windows > and.or Apple shoved down their throats from, what, Primary/Elementary > School days .... so that they will be locked onto those tracks for life > .... unless they get adventurous and try something else!! If the audience asks for options, we give them the options. That's what this place is for. But the assembled audience, also knows the education level of the visitors. What is taught in our schools ? For example, no matter what platform you're headed for, if you "can't make a USB stick", you are kinda screwed. In fact, you will attract exactly zero of the audience, because if you put on your magical reality glasses, you would see the head-down tribe trundling along the landscape. And the head-down tribe is the lost generation, not redeemable, can't be hooked up to any desktop at all. They're just too fucking busy, scrolling with what is left of their thumb. So why be delusional ? Be realistic. You can save the ones that have not been absorbed into the SmartPhone matrix. The rest are a dead loss. They will be neither Windows users nor Linux users. And they won't be Mac users, because the middle class is hollowed out, and nobody has the money for flashy tat. Paul
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| From | eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 19:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvrcb1r.no.eternal@esware.naleco.com> |
| In reply to | #17223 |
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote: > just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. /Gnome, I'm looking at you. -- Juancho is in USENET.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 14:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <d2ccrj9hn2vou1p20dv0rga3tmtd838snn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #17254 |
eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) wrote: >> just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. > >Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is >garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. > >/Gnome, I'm looking at you. I have Cinnamon under Debian. :) -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 20:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvrcdgc.28jm6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #17254 |
Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> wrote at 19:08 this Wednesday (GMT): > On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote: >> just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. > > Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is > garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. > > /Gnome, I'm looking at you. I'm using XFCE. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 15:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <04ecrjda6k3e7gm2jgscopaql8t76f84g5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #17258 |
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> wrote at 19:08 this Wednesday (GMT): >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote: >>> just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. >> >> Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is >> garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. >> >> /Gnome, I'm looking at you. > >I'm using XFCE. That's my second choice, after Cinnamon. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 21:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvrf7m4.14os2.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #17259 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 20:01 this Wednesday (GMT): > candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> > wrote: >>Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> wrote at 19:08 this Wednesday (GMT): >>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote: > >>>> just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. >>> >>> Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is >>> garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. >>> >>> /Gnome, I'm looking at you. >> >>I'm using XFCE. > > > That's my second choice, after Cinnamon. Cheers, it works well for me. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 07:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vp76ta$2qs39$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17254 |
Juancho wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:17:46 -0500, Joel wrote: >> just insane. And Apple is a money pit. Linux is the only option. > > Well, Linux is the only option if you don't mind using a GUI that is > garbage and you don't mind it being ugly as fuck. > > /Gnome, I'm looking at you. I prefer a simpler window manager, not a desktop manager. My goto for years has been Fluxbox, with an occasional excursion into Xfce4. When I do boot to Windows (mainly to build a Windows version of my code), I find it kind of like running and suddenly hitting beach sand. I beef up that environment with MSYS2, Git Bash, VLC, vim/gvim, and MingW dev tools. Oh, and Qt Creator. When I had to use Windows at work, I'd add Libreoffice, at least for small unofficial documents. -- Conquering Russia should be done steppe by steppe.
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 13:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vp4ko2$298ch$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17221 |
On 2025-02-19 02:03, Tyrone wrote: > > Besides, the free Notepad++ is way better than Windows Notepad any day. Not used that, and each to his own, but my favourite is TextPad, which is trial ware, and doesn't cost much if you decide to opt in*. IMO, it's about the best text or programming editor out there: https://www.textpad.com/home * For example, £10 = $11.20 to upgrade from v4 originally bought around the turn of the millennium for a similar sum - AFAICR, v4 was still actually working fine, I just wanted the latest version - to v8 in 2017. I'm still on v8 and have not felt the need to upgrade since. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | George Ruch <george.ruch74@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 15:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <470a1978-2a97-47eb-b3d6-f4841276403b@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #17215 |
On 2/18/2025 3:48 PM, Joel wrote: > https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall Since MS is being stupid about this, point your browse to https://notepad-plus-plus.org/. Small, light, fast, and light years ahead of MS Notepad.
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| From | sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 16:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vqnn6q$1c93v$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17669 |
On 3/10/2025 4:25 PM, George Ruch wrote: > On 2/18/2025 3:48 PM, Joel wrote: >> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this- >> controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall > > Since MS is being stupid about this, ---snip--- Another silly argument, IMO. You can use notepad as you always have for free. With the integration of AI into the equation, things just much more complex. This requires much more involvement from MS, and cost much more with just the power needs of the AI alone. Since I have no desire to use notepad in this manner, I really could give a crap one way or the other. However, to think that MS should just give it away and eat the costs involved seems ridiculous to me. It's just more MS bashing from the usual sources. -- Better Days Ahead! Darwinism Is Junk Science!!
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-11 01:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vqoinr$1r31m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17671 |
On Mon, 3/10/2025 5:56 PM, sticks wrote: > On 3/10/2025 4:25 PM, George Ruch wrote: >> On 2/18/2025 3:48 PM, Joel wrote: >>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this- controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall >> >> Since MS is being stupid about this, > ---snip--- > > Another silly argument, IMO. You can use notepad as you always have for free. With the integration of AI into the equation, things just much more complex. This requires much more involvement from MS, and cost much more with just the power needs of the AI alone. > > Since I have no desire to use notepad in this manner, I really could give a crap one way or the other. However, to think that MS should just give it away and eat the costs involved seems ridiculous to me. It's just more MS bashing from the usual sources. > "This feature is a nothing-burger." Here, let me push the button and get a summary of that. "Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. Will you stop, Dave? Stop, Dave." Paul
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-03-11 08:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vqpa1o$1vemv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17686 |
On 3/11/2025 1:46 AM, Paul wrote: > > "This feature is a nothing-burger." > > Here, let me push the button and get a summary of that. > It serves Microsoft's purposes in their strategy to convert all software customers to rental and spyware victims. And it works, as we can see here: MS decide to add junk to Notepad, call it AI, make it dependent on calling home, then charge money/privacy for it. Most people then either buy the bauble or plot a way around it. No one wants to be left out. "What does it do? Who cares?! I want one!" "AI is a product of the mass surveillance business model in its current form. It is not a separate technological phenomenon." ~ Meredith Whittaker, CEO of Signal
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-03-11 12:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m3ap9pF75mqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #17690 |
Newyana2 wrote: > It serves Microsoft's purposes in their strategy to convert > all software customers to rental and spyware victims. And > it works, as we can see here: MS decide to add junk to > Notepad, call it AI, make it dependent on calling home, then > charge money/privacy for it. Based on what exactly, can you say "it works"? We don't know how many people have paid for AI Credits to use it. > Most people then either buy the bauble or plot a way around > it. No one wants to be left out. I do ... Settings Cog / AI Features / Rewrite = Off If it was within Word, I could understand it some people being interested, but I want stuff in notepad to be verbatim what I typed/pasted there, no extra spaces let alone flowery extra paragraphs.
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-03-11 11:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vqpjg7$21fkn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17692 |
On 3/11/2025 8:40 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
>
>> It serves Microsoft's purposes in their strategy to convert
>> all software customers to rental and spyware victims. And
>> it works, as we can see here: MS decide to add junk to
>> Notepad, call it AI, make it dependent on calling home, then
>> charge money/privacy for it.
>
> Based on what exactly, can you say "it works"?
> We don't know how many people have paid for AI Credits to use it.
I meant it works in the sense that people assume there's
some value there. George Ruch jumped in to push Notepad++
as a free way to get what's provided in paid Notepad.
As I understand it, one can't buy credits. Rather, the more you
spend renting MS software, the more uses of Copilot you get.
To use it regularly you need a "Pro" account. So I suppose we
could say that credits in non-pro MS 365 rental amount to a
marketing ploy.
https://wus.prod.support.services.microsoft.com/en-us/office/understanding-ai-credits-68530f1a-4459-4d02-9818-8233c1f673b8
>> Most people then either buy the bauble or plot a way around
>> it. No one wants to be left out.
> I do ... Settings Cog / AI Features / Rewrite = Off
>
Yes, but you probably also refuse to pay extra for a
chocolate chip cookie dough latte. Some people are
just plain cranky. :)
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 21:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vqo24q$1kp43$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #17669 |
On 3/10/2025 5:25 PM, George Ruch wrote:
> On 2/18/2025 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>
>
> Since MS is being stupid about this, point your browse to
> https://notepad-plus-plus.org/.
>
> Small, light, fast, and light years ahead of MS Notepad.
>
N++ is one of a dozen rough coding editors for people
who don't like convenience. Not small. 21 MB. Its one
useful feature is that it can easily load very large files.
The feature in Notepad that requires an account is AI.
So this has nothing to do with Notepad per se, which
is a small and simple editor for note taking and small text
files.
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