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Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras?

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras?
Date	2025-01-12 21:11 +0000
Organization	NOYB
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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 1/12/25 8:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> A customer was looking for a picture gallery program
> >> to read his digital camera.
> > 
> >    As *he* looks for such a program for *his* camera (singular),  I
> > suggest he or you does/do exactly that. Most if not all camera
> > manufacturers have such programs for their cameras. I have them for my
> > old Olympus cameras and for my current Nikon DSLR.
> > 
> >    Such programs are manufacturer specific and 'know' the camera, more
> > than any general purpose program can.
> > 
> >    OTOH, if you are looking for a solution for multiple customers or/and
> > multiple brands/models of cameras, a general purpose program is probably
> > better.
> > 
> >> Windows Explorer reads his camera just fine.
> >>
> >> I tried Gigikam, Darktable, and Shotwell. They would
> >> not read his camera properly.  Shotwell did not even try.
> >> (Shotwell and cameras work like a dream in Linux.)
> >> Gigikam, Darktable found the camera but would not
> >> read it.
> >>
> >> Anyone have a recommendation for something that
> >> actually works?
> > 
> >    Chris mentioned the Windows Photos app. That has a camera button/icon.
> > I tried it with my smartphone acting as a PTP camera, but that was a bit
> > messy because it did not only get photos from the camera (DCIM\Camera),
> > but also all kinds of other images, screenshots, etc.. Can't be bothered
> > to try it with an actual camera.
> 
> 
> If it works from Windows Explorer, it should work
> with everything else.

  Not really, because File Explorer has built-in PTP and MTP support and
handles cameras, smartphones, etc. as special 'devices', not as part of
the file system. This is clear when you try to access such 'devices'
from a Command Prompt window, etc, you won't be able to, because they
have no drive letter (and aren't Network Shares either).

> Shotwell states it does not support MTP devices
> on Windows, but works seamlessly with them in
> Linux.  I was surprised as it is usually the other
> way around

  That proves my point: The program needs to have at least PTP support
built-in, so it does *not* "work  with everything else".

  Back to my original point: Why not let the customer use the software
of the manufacturer of his camera? (That is normally free - as in 'no
cost' - software.)

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picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 23:17 -0800
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-01-12 08:50 +0000
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 01:38 -0800
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 03:12 -0800
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 11:36 +0000
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:42 -0800
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 22:34 +0000
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-13 09:53 -0700
        Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 15:32 -0800
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2025-01-12 13:16 +0000
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 13:34 -0800
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:31 -0800
        Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 21:34 -0500
          Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 19:58 -0800
            Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:16 -0500
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 08:29 -0500
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:43 -0800
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 08:56 -0500
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:48 -0800
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-12 16:31 +0000
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:47 -0800
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-12 21:11 +0000
        Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 13:28 -0800
          Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 15:33 +0000
            Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 15:34 -0800
              Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:17 -0800
                Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 19:32 -0500
                Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:45 -0800
              Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 15:06 +0000
                Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:08 -0800
                Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:25 +0000
                Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 07:04 -0800
        Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 13:31 -0800
          Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-12 22:30 -0500
            Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:01 -0800
          Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 15:34 +0000
            Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 13:54 -0500
  Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Tony <noreply@ghtyhgfrt.com> - 2025-01-13 00:26 +0000
    Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:04 -0800
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 00:54 -0500
      Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:07 +0000
        Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 14:05 -0500
          Re: picture gallery programs that read cameras? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 20:31 +0000

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