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Re: Hard disk error (Error probing device: Error sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE)

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Subject Re: Hard disk error (Error probing device: Error sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE)
Date Fri, 4 Apr 2025 12:16:48 +0200
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On 2025-04-04 11:36, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-04-04 05:33, Paul wrote:
>> On Thu, 4/3/2025 8:39 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-03 23:47, Paul wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 4/3/2025 4:01 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>> Sigh.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you think this is a firmware issue, and nothing can be done on the 
>>> Linux side?
>>>
>>
>> It would seem "the underground" is distributing various firmwares for
>> this thing. Maybe the SPI bus really does have a firmware capability
>> to "fix" the stupid thing ? The architecture document isn't exactly 
>> honest
>> about this.
>>
>> jms578fwupdater.tgz   2,089,194 bytes
>>
>>       JMS578FwUpdate   4,130,828 bytes
>>
>> I guess that means some of the devices, have a 4MB SPI flash chip.
>> and that's where the firmware is stored or something. THis could be
>> a small 8 pin DIP near the JMB578 on the circuit board.
>>
>> I don't like to quote "sources" for things like this, unless
>> there is some sort of traceability for them.
>>
>> The firmware may have been written by JMicron, but JMicron are
>> not likely to be serving the file like a RealTek might.
>>
>> And since it's a flasher-firmware thing, the OS firmware support
>> is not of the same delivery type (some devices accept dynamic
>> firmware which is stored in device RAM). This would be a firmware
>> that is stored in  an outboard chip from the JMS578. It fixes issue
>> such as TRIM, UASP diaablement, proper support of power saving,
>> and so on.
>>
>> The work you are doing, is similar to the work an enclosure
>> engineer might do, before shipping this project. Each user
>> apparently expected to "sweep the web", "look for bootleg firmware",
>> "install" and "hope for the best". A science project.
> 
> That's out of my league :-(

I also asked on the openSUSE mail list, and a chap named Bengt said:

+++·····················
I have no experience with this device but it seems like others are 
having problems as well with idVendor=152d, idProduct=0578 (JMicron 
Technology JMS578 SATA 6Gb/s)

https://linux-hardware.org/?id=usb:152d-0578
·····················++-	
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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