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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? |
| Date | 2025-01-14 08:43 -0500 |
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On 1/14/2025 5:28 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Yes, as you've found there are tweaks/utilities for the QL Bar on Win11.
>
> QL demise/deperecation reasons
> - Old Vista era code retained in Win10 for backward compatibility
> - Based on integration with IE bits(also deprecated in Win11 even
> though Edge still supports limited IE mode).
>
That makes some sense in theory. I can see how they'd think
it was "progress" to remove more of IE. On the other hand, IE is
still fully there. It just can't be started from iexplore.exe without
swapping out the ieframe.dll files for older ones.
And that doesn't explain why they decided to make the taskbar
non-sizable. I started with small icons and medium taskbar. The
taskbar was not adjustable with the mouse. As near as I can tell,
Win11 no longer allows 2-storey taskbars. One can only pick icon
size, and then only via a sectre Registry settings. Then the taskbar
theoretically adjusts. mine was buggy, but when I then set the
size to small in the Registry, the bar height fixed itself.
Interestingly, I swapped out ieframe.dll files easily in Win10.
Win11 told me that Explorer was busy using the 64-bit version of
ieframe. Not a big deal, but I like to use IE as default browser and
then block it going online. It makes a quick, handy HTML reader for
local files and provides a way to block FF or Chromium from
jumping online without asking. An increasing number of companies
like to make the browser call home after software install, or they
provide a Help button but actually there is no help. It just calls the
browser to visit their website. With my IE arrangment their tricks
don't work. IE just jumps up and says it can't access the site,
because my firewall is not letting it through.
> Originally, I tweaked Win11 to have a QL Bar, but over time, didn't use
> it as much as the Win11 Task Bar...
I don't think of them as separate. QL is part of the taskbar. It's
just more compact than "pinning" and isn't connected with open
windows. So I have the shortcuts on one side, with open windows
"badges" clearly separate. It's also nice because some software,
including my own, still provides an installer option to create a QL
shortcut.
I don't like having open windows tied to shortcut icons.
It's confusing and poor design. A shortcut is a shortcut. Making
it serve double duty as some kind of window patriarch doesn't
actually make any sense. I find that it ends up requiring me to
do a kind of micro-analysis every time I deal with the taskbar.
It doesn't flow. I use my computer a lot. For me it's worthwhile
to make everything flow so that I don't have to stop and pay
attention to functionality. It's like reversing water taps or installing
a storm door with the wrong swing. They still work, but each
requires special treatment.
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