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Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path?

From ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path?
Date 2025-01-14 03:28 -0700
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Newyana2 wrote on 1/13/25 8:48 PM:
> On 1/13/2025 8:09 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> 
>>
>> It does take a while to pick through all the settings to adjust things 
>> to a sane choice, and turn off advertizing and rediculous "helpfull" 
>> stuff. Also need to cull rubbish programs you don't need or want.
>>
>> There are several programs that can address the screwed up taskbar, so 
>> maybe you can find one you like.
>>
> 
>     I did finally figure that one out. There's a program that I forget
> the name of now. It puts a context menu on the taskbar, which
> then provides the old Toolbars menu. From there I was able to get
> a Quicklaunch bar. The other problem was that it was too high and
> no longer adjustable. That turned out to be an option in the Registry.
> One can set icon size and then the taskbar automaticaly sizes in
> accordance.
>    It's a but mysterious, though. Why did they break two such handy
> things? It seems to be part of a gradual move toward blocking all
> customizing, restricting software choice, and generally defining Windows
> devices as MS property that we get to rent. I was stunned to see
> the cacaphony of News and Interests having ads on it, along with
> piles of nonsense headlines. I didn't know it had gone so depraved.
> But it seems that virtually all the crap is removable and virtually all
> customizing is still doable. It's just taking more work than it used to,
> so that hardly anyone will do it.
> 
>     The one thing I haven't yet confronted is the folder windows that
> are way too wide aand rangey. On WinXP I figured out how to make
> all folders the same size. On Win7 they broke the whole thing, but I
> figured out how to work with the new setup. Win10 brought still more
> breakage, but it was doable. Win11? I'm not sure yet. My Win10 tools
> don't seem to work.
> 
>> And you're right, it's basically win 10 under the hood. They just added 
>> a lot of crapware, then renamed everything and moved everything around, 
>> but once you've gone through it, you'll realize  ... It's just win 10 
>> with a different color lipstick.
>>
> 
Yes, as you've found there are tweaks/utilities for the QL Bar on Win11.

QL demise/deperecation reasons
  - Old Vista era code retained in Win10 for backward compatibility
  - Based on integration with IE bits(also deprecated in Win11 even 
though Edge still supports limited IE mode).

Originally, I tweaked Win11 to have a QL Bar, but over time, didn't use 
it as much as the Win11 Task Bar...now, I just have the QL folder(that 
resides in the same location as in the past) as a folder pinned to the 
Start menu - there if needed since my Start Menu is organized in Groups 
for my use(Office, Apps, Utilities[3rd party], System[Windows utilities], 
multiple File Explorer drives.
  - My Win11 Task bar in addition to the Start button has all of programs 
I routinely used(atm 11 items, anything else is easily accessible when 
desired.

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 21:42 +0000
  Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:45 -0500
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 07:00 +0000
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-01-15 07:56 +0000
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:12 -0700
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:54 -0700
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:30 -0500
  Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:54 -0600
  Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Windows 11 24H2 User <fvgtgfrf@juiklopjhy.com> - 2025-01-13 22:40 +0000
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 07:00 +0000
  Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-13 19:45 -0500
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 19:09 -0600
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-13 22:48 -0500
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 03:28 -0700
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-14 08:43 -0500
            Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:28 -0700
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-14 10:05 -0700
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-14 09:58 +0000
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-14 08:59 -0500
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-14 14:55 -0500

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