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"picture" it

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  "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 13:05 -0800
    Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 15:11 -0600
      Re: "picture" it Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-27 22:22 +0100
    Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 23:09 -0800
      Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 23:58 -0800
        Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 03:33 -0500
        Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 17:02 -0800
          Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 19:59 -0600
          Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 22:09 -0800
      Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 03:32 -0500
        Re: "picture" it Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 06:43 -0700
          Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 16:49 -0800
            Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:12 -0800
              Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:19 -0800
              Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 23:22 -0800
                Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:33 -0600
                  Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:14 -0800
                Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 22:00 -0800
              Re: "picture" it Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:31 -0600
                Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:15 -0800
                  Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-29 08:21 -0800
                Re: "picture" it David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-01 09:19 -0600
        Re: "picture" it Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-28 09:13 -0700
          Re: "picture" it benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-28 13:53 -0500
    Re: "picture" it Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-28 11:24 -0800
      Re: "picture" it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-28 16:35 -0800
        Re: "picture" it Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-11-29 10:41 -0700

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#279491 — "picture" it

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-27 13:05 -0800
Subject	"picture" it
Message-ID	<5658C582.182A@ix.netcom.com>

For some reason..
it appears to me
that the
'scientific community'
don't understand..
or don't know
how to use other tools
to understand
how the universe works.

They seem to be
limited by using
just mathematics.

There are other tools.

I'll explain what came before
or existed before the big bang
and what cause of the big bang clearly.

The Bang Bang was simply
an explosion of...
'MORE Space'.

Before the big bang
the small space that
existed before was filled
with stars to a point that
if you looked at the night
sky...it appeared that the stars
were all within a quarter of an inch,
maybe an eighth of an inch or less
from each other.
 
There was simply more stars
that filled the night sky that you
could barely see the night sky.

Trillion of years of stars being
born and barely dying...
an over population of stars
in a small amount of space led
to the explosion of the creation of
MORE space.

It also created a continue expansion of
more space, black holes to control
star population, shorter life span
of stars,  and new laws of physics.

So, without using mathematics...
you just simply..
"picture" it.

You think in terms of a
photograph.

Picture..a night sky
with so many stars
so close to each other
you can barely can see
the night dark black sky.

Like a crowded Japanese train.
http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg

But with stars.



The Starmaker

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#279492

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-27 15:11 -0600
Message-ID	<nsednXxkNK1wW8XLnZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#279491

On 11/27/15 3:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> For some reason.. it appears to me that the 'scientific community'
> don't understand.. or don't know how to use other tools to
> understand how the universe works.

   Translation: Starmaker doesn't understand modern physics.

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#279493

From	Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date	2015-11-27 22:22 +0100
Message-ID	<n3ahjd$e8i$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to	#279492

Użytkownik "Sam Wormley"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:nsednXxkNK1wW8XLnZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/27/15 3:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> For some reason.. it appears to me that the 'scientific community'
> don't understand.. or don't know how to use other tools to
> understand how the universe works.

|   Translation: Starmaker doesn't understand modern physics.

Neither you do.

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#279497

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-27 23:09 -0800
Message-ID	<5659533A.4212@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279491

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> For some reason..
> it appears to me
> that the
> 'scientific community'
> don't understand..
> or don't know
> how to use other tools
> to understand
> how the universe works.
> 
> They seem to be
> limited by using
> just mathematics.
> 
> There are other tools.
> 
> I'll explain what came before
> or existed before the big bang
> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> 
> The Bang Bang was simply
> an explosion of...
> 'MORE Space'.
> 
> Before the big bang
> the small space that
> existed before was filled
> with stars to a point that
> if you looked at the night
> sky...it appeared that the stars
> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> from each other.
> 
> There was simply more stars
> that filled the night sky that you
> could barely see the night sky.
> 
> Trillion of years of stars being
> born and barely dying...
> an over population of stars
> in a small amount of space led
> to the explosion of the creation of
> MORE space.
> 
> It also created a continue expansion of
> more space, black holes to control
> star population, shorter life span
> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> 
> So, without using mathematics...
> you just simply..
> "picture" it.
> 
> You think in terms of a
> photograph.
> 
> Picture..a night sky
> with so many stars
> so close to each other
> you can barely can see
> the night dark black sky.
> 
> Like a crowded Japanese train.
> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> 
> But with stars.
> 
> The Starmaker


In other words..
you don't need math
or methods like
experiment and observation..
to know whay caused the big bang
and what existed before it..

You just need to...'picture' it!

You don't need to send
rockit ships or big binoculos
out to space...I mean really..
what is Hubble sending back but...
'pictures'?

You can 'picture it' yourself
without leaving the ground.

It's very easy to 'know'
what caused the big bang
and what exited before it...
you 'picture it'.

No math needed.

No experiments or
observation required.

I already gave you the answer to
what casued the big bang...

> The Bang Bang was simply
> an explosion of...
> 'MORE Space'.
> 
> Before the big bang
> the small space that
> existed before was filled
> with stars to a point that
> if you looked at the night
> sky...it appeared that the stars
> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> from each other.
> 
> There was simply more stars
> that filled the night sky that you
> could barely see the night sky.
> 
> Trillion of years of stars being
> born and barely dying...
> an over population of stars
> in a small amount of space led
> to the explosion of the creation of
> MORE space.
> 
> It also created a continue expansion of
> more space, black holes to control
> star population, shorter life span
> of stars,  and new laws of physics.

Just by picturing it.

And you will not find any holes, or
any serious objections to it. Even it
fits perfectly well
with your math and
any experiments or observation.


This is CORRECT.
> The Bang Bang was simply
> an explosion of...
> 'MORE Space'.
> 
> Before the big bang
> the small space that
> existed before was filled
> with stars to a point that
> if you looked at the night
> sky...it appeared that the stars
> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> from each other.
> 
> There was simply more stars
> that filled the night sky that you
> could barely see the night sky.
> 
> Trillion of years of stars being
> born and barely dying...
> an over population of stars
> in a small amount of space led
> to the explosion of the creation of
> MORE space.
> 
> It also created a continue expansion of
> more space, black holes to control
> star population, shorter life span
> of stars,  and new laws of physics.

It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.


The Starmaker

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#279498

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-27 23:58 -0800
Message-ID	<56595EAA.7ACD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279497

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > For some reason..
> > it appears to me
> > that the
> > 'scientific community'
> > don't understand..
> > or don't know
> > how to use other tools
> > to understand
> > how the universe works.
> >
> > They seem to be
> > limited by using
> > just mathematics.
> >
> > There are other tools.
> >
> > I'll explain what came before
> > or existed before the big bang
> > and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> >
> > The Bang Bang was simply
> > an explosion of...
> > 'MORE Space'.
> >
> > Before the big bang
> > the small space that
> > existed before was filled
> > with stars to a point that
> > if you looked at the night
> > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > from each other.
> >
> > There was simply more stars
> > that filled the night sky that you
> > could barely see the night sky.
> >
> > Trillion of years of stars being
> > born and barely dying...
> > an over population of stars
> > in a small amount of space led
> > to the explosion of the creation of
> > MORE space.
> >
> > It also created a continue expansion of
> > more space, black holes to control
> > star population, shorter life span
> > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >
> > So, without using mathematics...
> > you just simply..
> > "picture" it.
> >
> > You think in terms of a
> > photograph.
> >
> > Picture..a night sky
> > with so many stars
> > so close to each other
> > you can barely can see
> > the night dark black sky.
> >
> > Like a crowded Japanese train.
> > http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> >
> > But with stars.
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> In other words..
> you don't need math
> or methods like
> experiment and observation..
> to know whay caused the big bang
> and what existed before it..
> 
> You just need to...'picture' it!
> 
> You don't need to send
> rockit ships or big binoculos
> out to space...I mean really..
> what is Hubble sending back but...
> 'pictures'?
> 
> You can 'picture it' yourself
> without leaving the ground.
> 
> It's very easy to 'know'
> what caused the big bang
> and what exited before it...
> you 'picture it'.
> 
> No math needed.
> 
> No experiments or
> observation required.
> 
> I already gave you the answer to
> what casued the big bang...
> 
> > The Bang Bang was simply
> > an explosion of...
> > 'MORE Space'.
> >
> > Before the big bang
> > the small space that
> > existed before was filled
> > with stars to a point that
> > if you looked at the night
> > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > from each other.
> >
> > There was simply more stars
> > that filled the night sky that you
> > could barely see the night sky.
> >
> > Trillion of years of stars being
> > born and barely dying...
> > an over population of stars
> > in a small amount of space led
> > to the explosion of the creation of
> > MORE space.
> >
> > It also created a continue expansion of
> > more space, black holes to control
> > star population, shorter life span
> > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> 
> Just by picturing it.
> 
> And you will not find any holes, or
> any serious objections to it. Even it
> fits perfectly well
> with your math and
> any experiments or observation.
> 
> This is CORRECT.
> > The Bang Bang was simply
> > an explosion of...
> > 'MORE Space'.
> >
> > Before the big bang
> > the small space that
> > existed before was filled
> > with stars to a point that
> > if you looked at the night
> > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > from each other.
> >
> > There was simply more stars
> > that filled the night sky that you
> > could barely see the night sky.
> >
> > Trillion of years of stars being
> > born and barely dying...
> > an over population of stars
> > in a small amount of space led
> > to the explosion of the creation of
> > MORE space.
> >
> > It also created a continue expansion of
> > more space, black holes to control
> > star population, shorter life span
> > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> 
> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> 
> The Starmaker

I mean, if you want a complete picture of the universe...'picture it'.


All of yous
who have seen Mars
have probably seen..
a picture of it.

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#279500

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-28 03:33 -0500
Message-ID	<QFd6y.159669$gK.11755@fx26.iad>
In reply to	#279498

On 11/28/2015 02:58 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> For some reason..
>>> it appears to me
>>> that the
>>> 'scientific community'
>>> don't understand..
>>> or don't know
>>> how to use other tools
>>> to understand
>>> how the universe works.
>>>
>>> They seem to be
>>> limited by using
>>> just mathematics.
>>>
>>> There are other tools.
>>>
>>> I'll explain what came before
>>> or existed before the big bang
>>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
>>>
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>>
>>> So, without using mathematics...
>>> you just simply..
>>> "picture" it.
>>>
>>> You think in terms of a
>>> photograph.
>>>
>>> Picture..a night sky
>>> with so many stars
>>> so close to each other
>>> you can barely can see
>>> the night dark black sky.
>>>
>>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
>>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
>>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
>>>
>>> But with stars.
>>>
>>> The Starmaker
>>
>> In other words..
>> you don't need math
>> or methods like
>> experiment and observation..
>> to know whay caused the big bang
>> and what existed before it..
>>
>> You just need to...'picture' it!
>>
>> You don't need to send
>> rockit ships or big binoculos
>> out to space...I mean really..
>> what is Hubble sending back but...
>> 'pictures'?
>>
>> You can 'picture it' yourself
>> without leaving the ground.
>>
>> It's very easy to 'know'
>> what caused the big bang
>> and what exited before it...
>> you 'picture it'.
>>
>> No math needed.
>>
>> No experiments or
>> observation required.
>>
>> I already gave you the answer to
>> what casued the big bang...
>>
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>
>> Just by picturing it.
>>
>> And you will not find any holes, or
>> any serious objections to it. Even it
>> fits perfectly well
>> with your math and
>> any experiments or observation.
>>
>> This is CORRECT.
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>
>> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
>>
>> The Starmaker
>
> I mean, if you want a complete picture of the universe...'picture it'.
>
>
> All of yous
> who have seen Mars
> have probably seen..
> a picture of it.

I mean you want a picture of BJ? Just do like HVAC and "picture it"! 
Works for him and can work for you. It's like remote viewing, only 
without the accuracy.



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#279526

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-28 17:02 -0800
Message-ID	<565A4EBB.6CCD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279498

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > For some reason..
> > > it appears to me
> > > that the
> > > 'scientific community'
> > > don't understand..
> > > or don't know
> > > how to use other tools
> > > to understand
> > > how the universe works.
> > >
> > > They seem to be
> > > limited by using
> > > just mathematics.
> > >
> > > There are other tools.
> > >
> > > I'll explain what came before
> > > or existed before the big bang
> > > and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> > >
> > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > an explosion of...
> > > 'MORE Space'.
> > >
> > > Before the big bang
> > > the small space that
> > > existed before was filled
> > > with stars to a point that
> > > if you looked at the night
> > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > from each other.
> > >
> > > There was simply more stars
> > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > could barely see the night sky.
> > >
> > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > born and barely dying...
> > > an over population of stars
> > > in a small amount of space led
> > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > MORE space.
> > >
> > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > more space, black holes to control
> > > star population, shorter life span
> > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > >
> > > So, without using mathematics...
> > > you just simply..
> > > "picture" it.
> > >
> > > You think in terms of a
> > > photograph.
> > >
> > > Picture..a night sky
> > > with so many stars
> > > so close to each other
> > > you can barely can see
> > > the night dark black sky.
> > >
> > > Like a crowded Japanese train.
> > > http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> > > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> > >
> > > But with stars.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> >
> > In other words..
> > you don't need math
> > or methods like
> > experiment and observation..
> > to know whay caused the big bang
> > and what existed before it..
> >
> > You just need to...'picture' it!
> >
> > You don't need to send
> > rockit ships or big binoculos
> > out to space...I mean really..
> > what is Hubble sending back but...
> > 'pictures'?
> >
> > You can 'picture it' yourself
> > without leaving the ground.
> >
> > It's very easy to 'know'
> > what caused the big bang
> > and what exited before it...
> > you 'picture it'.
> >
> > No math needed.
> >
> > No experiments or
> > observation required.
> >
> > I already gave you the answer to
> > what casued the big bang...
> >
> > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > an explosion of...
> > > 'MORE Space'.
> > >
> > > Before the big bang
> > > the small space that
> > > existed before was filled
> > > with stars to a point that
> > > if you looked at the night
> > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > from each other.
> > >
> > > There was simply more stars
> > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > could barely see the night sky.
> > >
> > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > born and barely dying...
> > > an over population of stars
> > > in a small amount of space led
> > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > MORE space.
> > >
> > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > more space, black holes to control
> > > star population, shorter life span
> > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >
> > Just by picturing it.
> >
> > And you will not find any holes, or
> > any serious objections to it. Even it
> > fits perfectly well
> > with your math and
> > any experiments or observation.
> >
> > This is CORRECT.
> > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > an explosion of...
> > > 'MORE Space'.
> > >
> > > Before the big bang
> > > the small space that
> > > existed before was filled
> > > with stars to a point that
> > > if you looked at the night
> > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > from each other.
> > >
> > > There was simply more stars
> > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > could barely see the night sky.
> > >
> > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > born and barely dying...
> > > an over population of stars
> > > in a small amount of space led
> > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > MORE space.
> > >
> > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > more space, black holes to control
> > > star population, shorter life span
> > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >
> > It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> I mean, if you want a complete picture of the universe...'picture it'.
> 
> All of yous
> who have seen Mars
> have probably seen..
> a picture of it.



In other words..
one just need to
'think in pictures' instead
of math.

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#279528

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-28 19:59 -0600
Message-ID	<9pCdnWx4RqR2xsfLnZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#279526

On 11/28/15 7:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> In other words.. one just need to 'think in pictures' instead

   Think in math (general relativity) predicted an non-static universe
   either expanding or contracting.

   Then the observations:

> The expansion of the universe

> Edwin Hubble's 1929 observation that galaxies were generally receding
> from us provided the first clue that the Big Bang theory might be
> right.

> The abundance of the light elements H, He, Li

> The Big Bang theory predicts that these light elements should have
> been fused from protons and neutrons in the first few minutes after
> the Big Bang.

> The cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation

> The early universe should have been very hot. The cosmic microwave
> background radiation is the remnant heat leftover from the Big Bang.

   These three measurable signatures strongly support the notion that
   the universe evolved from a dense, nearly featureless hot gas, just
   as the Big Bang model predicts.

   Once we started observing the CMB with sensitive instruments, the data
   has been a gold mine about the early universe.

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#279633

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-01 22:09 -0800
Message-ID	<565E8B34.15AF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279526

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For some reason..
> > > > it appears to me
> > > > that the
> > > > 'scientific community'
> > > > don't understand..
> > > > or don't know
> > > > how to use other tools
> > > > to understand
> > > > how the universe works.
> > > >
> > > > They seem to be
> > > > limited by using
> > > > just mathematics.
> > > >
> > > > There are other tools.
> > > >
> > > > I'll explain what came before
> > > > or existed before the big bang
> > > > and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> > > >
> > > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > an explosion of...
> > > > 'MORE Space'.
> > > >
> > > > Before the big bang
> > > > the small space that
> > > > existed before was filled
> > > > with stars to a point that
> > > > if you looked at the night
> > > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > from each other.
> > > >
> > > > There was simply more stars
> > > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > > could barely see the night sky.
> > > >
> > > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > born and barely dying...
> > > > an over population of stars
> > > > in a small amount of space led
> > > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > MORE space.
> > > >
> > > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > more space, black holes to control
> > > > star population, shorter life span
> > > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > >
> > > > So, without using mathematics...
> > > > you just simply..
> > > > "picture" it.
> > > >
> > > > You think in terms of a
> > > > photograph.
> > > >
> > > > Picture..a night sky
> > > > with so many stars
> > > > so close to each other
> > > > you can barely can see
> > > > the night dark black sky.
> > > >
> > > > Like a crowded Japanese train.
> > > > http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> > > > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> > > >
> > > > But with stars.
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker
> > >
> > > In other words..
> > > you don't need math
> > > or methods like
> > > experiment and observation..
> > > to know whay caused the big bang
> > > and what existed before it..
> > >
> > > You just need to...'picture' it!
> > >
> > > You don't need to send
> > > rockit ships or big binoculos
> > > out to space...I mean really..
> > > what is Hubble sending back but...
> > > 'pictures'?
> > >
> > > You can 'picture it' yourself
> > > without leaving the ground.
> > >
> > > It's very easy to 'know'
> > > what caused the big bang
> > > and what exited before it...
> > > you 'picture it'.
> > >
> > > No math needed.
> > >
> > > No experiments or
> > > observation required.
> > >
> > > I already gave you the answer to
> > > what casued the big bang...
> > >
> > > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > an explosion of...
> > > > 'MORE Space'.
> > > >
> > > > Before the big bang
> > > > the small space that
> > > > existed before was filled
> > > > with stars to a point that
> > > > if you looked at the night
> > > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > from each other.
> > > >
> > > > There was simply more stars
> > > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > > could barely see the night sky.
> > > >
> > > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > born and barely dying...
> > > > an over population of stars
> > > > in a small amount of space led
> > > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > MORE space.
> > > >
> > > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > more space, black holes to control
> > > > star population, shorter life span
> > > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > >
> > > Just by picturing it.
> > >
> > > And you will not find any holes, or
> > > any serious objections to it. Even it
> > > fits perfectly well
> > > with your math and
> > > any experiments or observation.
> > >
> > > This is CORRECT.
> > > > The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > an explosion of...
> > > > 'MORE Space'.
> > > >
> > > > Before the big bang
> > > > the small space that
> > > > existed before was filled
> > > > with stars to a point that
> > > > if you looked at the night
> > > > sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > from each other.
> > > >
> > > > There was simply more stars
> > > > that filled the night sky that you
> > > > could barely see the night sky.
> > > >
> > > > Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > born and barely dying...
> > > > an over population of stars
> > > > in a small amount of space led
> > > > to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > MORE space.
> > > >
> > > > It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > more space, black holes to control
> > > > star population, shorter life span
> > > > of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > >
> > > It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> >
> > I mean, if you want a complete picture of the universe...'picture it'.
> >
> > All of yous
> > who have seen Mars
> > have probably seen..
> > a picture of it.
> 
> In other words..
> one just need to
> 'think in pictures' instead
> of math.


Take for example Stephen Hawking..
now come on..
do you really think
he sits there
doing experiments and observations or
writes math equations...with what?
Takes him two years to spel Black Hole!

You wann know what
Stephen Hawking really does??

The majority of the physics he does is with...pictures.

I repeat for the hard of hearing...

'Stephen Hawkings' does most of his *physics* by "thinking in pictures"!


So, just picture it.

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#279499

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-28 03:32 -0500
Message-ID	<hEd6y.159668$gK.135127@fx26.iad>
In reply to	#279497

On 11/28/2015 02:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> For some reason..
>> it appears to me
>> that the
>> 'scientific community'
>> don't understand..
>> or don't know
>> how to use other tools
>> to understand
>> how the universe works.
>>
>> They seem to be
>> limited by using
>> just mathematics.
>>
>> There are other tools.
>>
>> I'll explain what came before
>> or existed before the big bang
>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
>>
>> The Bang Bang was simply
>> an explosion of...
>> 'MORE Space'.
>>
>> Before the big bang
>> the small space that
>> existed before was filled
>> with stars to a point that
>> if you looked at the night
>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>> from each other.
>>
>> There was simply more stars
>> that filled the night sky that you
>> could barely see the night sky.
>>
>> Trillion of years of stars being
>> born and barely dying...
>> an over population of stars
>> in a small amount of space led
>> to the explosion of the creation of
>> MORE space.
>>
>> It also created a continue expansion of
>> more space, black holes to control
>> star population, shorter life span
>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>
>> So, without using mathematics...
>> you just simply..
>> "picture" it.
>>
>> You think in terms of a
>> photograph.
>>
>> Picture..a night sky
>> with so many stars
>> so close to each other
>> you can barely can see
>> the night dark black sky.
>>
>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
>>
>> But with stars.
>>
>> The Starmaker
>
>
> In other words..
> you don't need math
> or methods like
> experiment and observation..
> to know whay caused the big bang
> and what existed before it..
>
> You just need to...'picture' it!
>
> You don't need to send
> rockit ships or big binoculos
> out to space...I mean really..
> what is Hubble sending back but...
> 'pictures'?
>
> You can 'picture it' yourself
> without leaving the ground.
>
> It's very easy to 'know'
> what caused the big bang
> and what exited before it...
> you 'picture it'.
>
> No math needed.
>
> No experiments or
> observation required.
>
> I already gave you the answer to
> what casued the big bang...
>
>> The Bang Bang was simply
>> an explosion of...
>> 'MORE Space'.
>>
>> Before the big bang
>> the small space that
>> existed before was filled
>> with stars to a point that
>> if you looked at the night
>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>> from each other.
>>
>> There was simply more stars
>> that filled the night sky that you
>> could barely see the night sky.
>>
>> Trillion of years of stars being
>> born and barely dying...
>> an over population of stars
>> in a small amount of space led
>> to the explosion of the creation of
>> MORE space.
>>
>> It also created a continue expansion of
>> more space, black holes to control
>> star population, shorter life span
>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>
> Just by picturing it.
>
> And you will not find any holes, or
> any serious objections to it. Even it
> fits perfectly well
> with your math and
> any experiments or observation.
>
>
> This is CORRECT.
>> The Bang Bang was simply
>> an explosion of...
>> 'MORE Space'.
>>
>> Before the big bang
>> the small space that
>> existed before was filled
>> with stars to a point that
>> if you looked at the night
>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>> from each other.
>>
>> There was simply more stars
>> that filled the night sky that you
>> could barely see the night sky.
>>
>> Trillion of years of stars being
>> born and barely dying...
>> an over population of stars
>> in a small amount of space led
>> to the explosion of the creation of
>> MORE space.
>>
>> It also created a continue expansion of
>> more space, black holes to control
>> star population, shorter life span
>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>
> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
>
>
> The Starmaker

Libs all think that fantasy is all anyone needs to "explain" life.

Libs should NEVER be allowed to set ANY policy. Disaster from their 
total ignorance is sure to follow. So many examples of this it is beyond 
doubt.



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#279501

From	Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-28 06:43 -0700
Message-ID	<6ci6y.123450$og6.70258@fx06.iad>
In reply to	#279499

On 11/28/2015 1:32 AM, benj wrote:
> On 11/28/2015 02:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> For some reason..
>>> it appears to me
>>> that the
>>> 'scientific community'
>>> don't understand..
>>> or don't know
>>> how to use other tools
>>> to understand
>>> how the universe works.
>>>
>>> They seem to be
>>> limited by using
>>> just mathematics.
>>>
>>> There are other tools.
>>>
>>> I'll explain what came before
>>> or existed before the big bang
>>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
>>>
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>>
>>> So, without using mathematics...
>>> you just simply..
>>> "picture" it.
>>>
>>> You think in terms of a
>>> photograph.
>>>
>>> Picture..a night sky
>>> with so many stars
>>> so close to each other
>>> you can barely can see
>>> the night dark black sky.
>>>
>>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
>>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
>>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> But with stars.
>>>
>>> The Starmaker
>>
>>
>> In other words..
>> you don't need math
>> or methods like
>> experiment and observation..
>> to know whay caused the big bang
>> and what existed before it..
>>
>> You just need to...'picture' it!
>>
>> You don't need to send
>> rockit ships or big binoculos
>> out to space...I mean really..
>> what is Hubble sending back but...
>> 'pictures'?
>>
>> You can 'picture it' yourself
>> without leaving the ground.
>>
>> It's very easy to 'know'
>> what caused the big bang
>> and what exited before it...
>> you 'picture it'.
>>
>> No math needed.
>>
>> No experiments or
>> observation required.
>>
>> I already gave you the answer to
>> what casued the big bang...
>>
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>
>> Just by picturing it.
>>
>> And you will not find any holes, or
>> any serious objections to it. Even it
>> fits perfectly well
>> with your math and
>> any experiments or observation.
>>
>>
>> This is CORRECT.
>>> The Bang Bang was simply
>>> an explosion of...
>>> 'MORE Space'.
>>>
>>> Before the big bang
>>> the small space that
>>> existed before was filled
>>> with stars to a point that
>>> if you looked at the night
>>> sky...it appeared that the stars
>>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
>>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
>>> from each other.
>>>
>>> There was simply more stars
>>> that filled the night sky that you
>>> could barely see the night sky.
>>>
>>> Trillion of years of stars being
>>> born and barely dying...
>>> an over population of stars
>>> in a small amount of space led
>>> to the explosion of the creation of
>>> MORE space.
>>>
>>> It also created a continue expansion of
>>> more space, black holes to control
>>> star population, shorter life span
>>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
>>
>> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
>>
>>
>> The Starmaker
>
> Libs all think that fantasy is all anyone needs to "explain" life.
>
> Libs should NEVER be allowed to set ANY policy. Disaster from their
> total ignorance is sure to follow. So many examples of this it is beyond
> doubt.
>
>
>

Uh-uh, Ben. This guy's a theocrat who believes science, fiction and 
especially _science fiction_ should be outlawed. That's reactionary, not 
Commie.

_You and yours_ get to own him, not my peers. :-P
-- 
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

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#279523

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-28 16:49 -0800
Message-ID	<565A4B84.C72@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279501

Chrysi Cat wrote:
> 
> On 11/28/2015 1:32 AM, benj wrote:
> > On 11/28/2015 02:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For some reason..
> >>> it appears to me
> >>> that the
> >>> 'scientific community'
> >>> don't understand..
> >>> or don't know
> >>> how to use other tools
> >>> to understand
> >>> how the universe works.
> >>>
> >>> They seem to be
> >>> limited by using
> >>> just mathematics.
> >>>
> >>> There are other tools.
> >>>
> >>> I'll explain what came before
> >>> or existed before the big bang
> >>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> >>>
> >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> >>> an explosion of...
> >>> 'MORE Space'.
> >>>
> >>> Before the big bang
> >>> the small space that
> >>> existed before was filled
> >>> with stars to a point that
> >>> if you looked at the night
> >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> >>> from each other.
> >>>
> >>> There was simply more stars
> >>> that filled the night sky that you
> >>> could barely see the night sky.
> >>>
> >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> >>> born and barely dying...
> >>> an over population of stars
> >>> in a small amount of space led
> >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> >>> MORE space.
> >>>
> >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> >>> more space, black holes to control
> >>> star population, shorter life span
> >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >>>
> >>> So, without using mathematics...
> >>> you just simply..
> >>> "picture" it.
> >>>
> >>> You think in terms of a
> >>> photograph.
> >>>
> >>> Picture..a night sky
> >>> with so many stars
> >>> so close to each other
> >>> you can barely can see
> >>> the night dark black sky.
> >>>
> >>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
> >>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> >>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But with stars.
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker
> >>
> >>
> >> In other words..
> >> you don't need math
> >> or methods like
> >> experiment and observation..
> >> to know whay caused the big bang
> >> and what existed before it..
> >>
> >> You just need to...'picture' it!
> >>
> >> You don't need to send
> >> rockit ships or big binoculos
> >> out to space...I mean really..
> >> what is Hubble sending back but...
> >> 'pictures'?
> >>
> >> You can 'picture it' yourself
> >> without leaving the ground.
> >>
> >> It's very easy to 'know'
> >> what caused the big bang
> >> and what exited before it...
> >> you 'picture it'.
> >>
> >> No math needed.
> >>
> >> No experiments or
> >> observation required.
> >>
> >> I already gave you the answer to
> >> what casued the big bang...
> >>
> >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> >>> an explosion of...
> >>> 'MORE Space'.
> >>>
> >>> Before the big bang
> >>> the small space that
> >>> existed before was filled
> >>> with stars to a point that
> >>> if you looked at the night
> >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> >>> from each other.
> >>>
> >>> There was simply more stars
> >>> that filled the night sky that you
> >>> could barely see the night sky.
> >>>
> >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> >>> born and barely dying...
> >>> an over population of stars
> >>> in a small amount of space led
> >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> >>> MORE space.
> >>>
> >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> >>> more space, black holes to control
> >>> star population, shorter life span
> >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >>
> >> Just by picturing it.
> >>
> >> And you will not find any holes, or
> >> any serious objections to it. Even it
> >> fits perfectly well
> >> with your math and
> >> any experiments or observation.
> >>
> >>
> >> This is CORRECT.
> >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> >>> an explosion of...
> >>> 'MORE Space'.
> >>>
> >>> Before the big bang
> >>> the small space that
> >>> existed before was filled
> >>> with stars to a point that
> >>> if you looked at the night
> >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> >>> from each other.
> >>>
> >>> There was simply more stars
> >>> that filled the night sky that you
> >>> could barely see the night sky.
> >>>
> >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> >>> born and barely dying...
> >>> an over population of stars
> >>> in a small amount of space led
> >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> >>> MORE space.
> >>>
> >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> >>> more space, black holes to control
> >>> star population, shorter life span
> >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> >>
> >> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> >>
> >>
> >> The Starmaker
> >
> > Libs all think that fantasy is all anyone needs to "explain" life.
> >
> > Libs should NEVER be allowed to set ANY policy. Disaster from their
> > total ignorance is sure to follow. So many examples of this it is beyond
> > doubt.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Uh-uh, Ben. This guy's a theocrat who believes science, fiction and
> especially _science fiction_ should be outlawed. That's reactionary, not
> Commie.
> 



So Chrysi Kat, you are saying Albert Einstein is a reactionary...




5. He Loathed Science Fiction

Lest it distort pure science and give people the false illusion of
scientific understanding, he recommended complete abstinence from any
type of science fiction. 
“I never think of the future. It comes soon enough.” He also thought
people who claimed to have seen flying saucers should keep it to
themselves.


http://justbesplendid.tumblr.com/post/241094568/facts-about-einstein



and he was a commie...if not the biggest commie in the world.

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#279529

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-28 23:12 -0800
Message-ID	<565AA54E.1506@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279523

Kevrob wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 7:49:08 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Chrysi Cat wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/28/2015 1:32 AM, benj wrote:
> > > > On 11/28/2015 02:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For some reason..
> > > >>> it appears to me
> > > >>> that the
> > > >>> 'scientific community'
> > > >>> don't understand..
> > > >>> or don't know
> > > >>> how to use other tools
> > > >>> to understand
> > > >>> how the universe works.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> They seem to be
> > > >>> limited by using
> > > >>> just mathematics.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There are other tools.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll explain what came before
> > > >>> or existed before the big bang
> > > >>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > >>> the small space that
> > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > >>> from each other.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > >>> MORE space.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So, without using mathematics...
> > > >>> you just simply..
> > > >>> "picture" it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You think in terms of a
> > > >>> photograph.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Picture..a night sky
> > > >>> with so many stars
> > > >>> so close to each other
> > > >>> you can barely can see
> > > >>> the night dark black sky.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
> > > >>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> > > >>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But with stars.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Starmaker
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> In other words..
> > > >> you don't need math
> > > >> or methods like
> > > >> experiment and observation..
> > > >> to know whay caused the big bang
> > > >> and what existed before it..
> > > >>
> > > >> You just need to...'picture' it!
> > > >>
> > > >> You don't need to send
> > > >> rockit ships or big binoculos
> > > >> out to space...I mean really..
> > > >> what is Hubble sending back but...
> > > >> 'pictures'?
> > > >>
> > > >> You can 'picture it' yourself
> > > >> without leaving the ground.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's very easy to 'know'
> > > >> what caused the big bang
> > > >> and what exited before it...
> > > >> you 'picture it'.
> > > >>
> > > >> No math needed.
> > > >>
> > > >> No experiments or
> > > >> observation required.
> > > >>
> > > >> I already gave you the answer to
> > > >> what casued the big bang...
> > > >>
> > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > >>> the small space that
> > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > >>> from each other.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > >>> MORE space.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just by picturing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> And you will not find any holes, or
> > > >> any serious objections to it. Even it
> > > >> fits perfectly well
> > > >> with your math and
> > > >> any experiments or observation.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> This is CORRECT.
> > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > >>> the small space that
> > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > >>> from each other.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > >>> MORE space.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > >>
> > > >> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The Starmaker
> > > >
> > > > Libs all think that fantasy is all anyone needs to "explain" life.
> > > >
> > > > Libs should NEVER be allowed to set ANY policy. Disaster from their
> > > > total ignorance is sure to follow. So many examples of this it is beyond
> > > > doubt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Uh-uh, Ben. This guy's a theocrat who believes science, fiction and
> > > especially _science fiction_ should be outlawed. That's reactionary, not
> > > Commie.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > So Chrysi Kat, you are saying Albert Einstein is a reactionary...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. He Loathed Science Fiction
> >
> > Lest it distort pure science and give people the false illusion of
> > scientific understanding, he recommended complete abstinence from any
> > type of science fiction.
> > "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough." He also thought
> > people who claimed to have seen flying saucers should keep it to
> > themselves.
> >
> >
> > http://justbesplendid.tumblr.com/post/241094568/facts-about-einstein
> >
> >
> >
> > and he was a commie...if not the biggest commie in the world.
> 
> A pinko, but not a red.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
> He liked Bob Clampett's "Time For Beany," so he at least
> liked a bit of whimsical fantasy.
> 
> Kevin R



Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
Soviet dictator Josef Stalin! 
https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014

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#279530

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-28 23:19 -0800
Message-ID	<565AA6F6.1F6B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279529

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Kevrob wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 7:49:08 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Chrysi Cat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 11/28/2015 1:32 AM, benj wrote:
> > > > > On 11/28/2015 02:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> For some reason..
> > > > >>> it appears to me
> > > > >>> that the
> > > > >>> 'scientific community'
> > > > >>> don't understand..
> > > > >>> or don't know
> > > > >>> how to use other tools
> > > > >>> to understand
> > > > >>> how the universe works.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> They seem to be
> > > > >>> limited by using
> > > > >>> just mathematics.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There are other tools.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'll explain what came before
> > > > >>> or existed before the big bang
> > > > >>> and what cause of the big bang clearly.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > > >>> the small space that
> > > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > >>> from each other.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > >>> MORE space.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> So, without using mathematics...
> > > > >>> you just simply..
> > > > >>> "picture" it.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> You think in terms of a
> > > > >>> photograph.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Picture..a night sky
> > > > >>> with so many stars
> > > > >>> so close to each other
> > > > >>> you can barely can see
> > > > >>> the night dark black sky.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Like a crowded Japanese train.
> > > > >>> http://tx.english-ch.com/teacher/art/japan_subway_10.jpg
> > > > >>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrCwqs7cYR4/UcUhrD8QqcI/AAAAAAAAAhU/gCnK9heE5q0/s1600/japan_subway_11.jpg
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> But with stars.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The Starmaker
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In other words..
> > > > >> you don't need math
> > > > >> or methods like
> > > > >> experiment and observation..
> > > > >> to know whay caused the big bang
> > > > >> and what existed before it..
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You just need to...'picture' it!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You don't need to send
> > > > >> rockit ships or big binoculos
> > > > >> out to space...I mean really..
> > > > >> what is Hubble sending back but...
> > > > >> 'pictures'?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You can 'picture it' yourself
> > > > >> without leaving the ground.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's very easy to 'know'
> > > > >> what caused the big bang
> > > > >> and what exited before it...
> > > > >> you 'picture it'.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No math needed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No experiments or
> > > > >> observation required.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I already gave you the answer to
> > > > >> what casued the big bang...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > > >>> the small space that
> > > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > >>> from each other.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > >>> MORE space.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just by picturing it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And you will not find any holes, or
> > > > >> any serious objections to it. Even it
> > > > >> fits perfectly well
> > > > >> with your math and
> > > > >> any experiments or observation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is CORRECT.
> > > > >>> The Bang Bang was simply
> > > > >>> an explosion of...
> > > > >>> 'MORE Space'.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Before the big bang
> > > > >>> the small space that
> > > > >>> existed before was filled
> > > > >>> with stars to a point that
> > > > >>> if you looked at the night
> > > > >>> sky...it appeared that the stars
> > > > >>> were all within a quarter of an inch,
> > > > >>> maybe an eighth of an inch or less
> > > > >>> from each other.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There was simply more stars
> > > > >>> that filled the night sky that you
> > > > >>> could barely see the night sky.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Trillion of years of stars being
> > > > >>> born and barely dying...
> > > > >>> an over population of stars
> > > > >>> in a small amount of space led
> > > > >>> to the explosion of the creation of
> > > > >>> MORE space.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It also created a continue expansion of
> > > > >>> more space, black holes to control
> > > > >>> star population, shorter life span
> > > > >>> of stars,  and new laws of physics.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It cannot be refuted, it is accurate, correct and true.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Starmaker
> > > > >
> > > > > Libs all think that fantasy is all anyone needs to "explain" life.
> > > > >
> > > > > Libs should NEVER be allowed to set ANY policy. Disaster from their
> > > > > total ignorance is sure to follow. So many examples of this it is beyond
> > > > > doubt.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Uh-uh, Ben. This guy's a theocrat who believes science, fiction and
> > > > especially _science fiction_ should be outlawed. That's reactionary, not
> > > > Commie.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So Chrysi Kat, you are saying Albert Einstein is a reactionary...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5. He Loathed Science Fiction
> > >
> > > Lest it distort pure science and give people the false illusion of
> > > scientific understanding, he recommended complete abstinence from any
> > > type of science fiction.
> > > "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough." He also thought
> > > people who claimed to have seen flying saucers should keep it to
> > > themselves.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://justbesplendid.tumblr.com/post/241094568/facts-about-einstein
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and he was a commie...if not the biggest commie in the world.
> >
> > A pinko, but not a red.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> >
> > He liked Bob Clampett's "Time For Beany," so he at least
> > liked a bit of whimsical fantasy.
> >
> > Kevin R
> 
> Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!
> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014


https://books.google.com/books?id=Ndl9OAeE8woC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+fbi+cities+that+einstein+was+affiliated+with+thirty-four+communist&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiA0qKWi7XJAhVTLIgKHUoGD7gQ6AEINDAB#v=onepage&q&f=false

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#279531

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-28 23:22 -0800
Message-ID	<565AA7AC.1A3E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279529

https://books.google.com/books?id=weECGK2rChcC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein

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#279534

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-29 07:33 -0600
Message-ID	<XcSdnXzAkLgOY8fLnZ2dnUU7-QednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#279531

On 11/29/15 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein
>

Total Sham:

General Information
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Network:	104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
Reports:	
Targets:	
First Reported:	
Most Recent Report:	


Whois Info





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#279537

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-29 08:14 -0800
Message-ID	<565B2450.1A21@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279534

site: https://www.fbi.gov/ vault

The Vault is our new FOIA Library, containing 6,700 documents and other media ... FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice.

https://vault.fbi.gov/Federal Bureau of Investigation


it's no sham...you're just mistaken.


Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 11/29/15 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein
> >
> 
> Total Sham:
> 
> General Information
> IP Address (click for more detail):     104.16.94.235
> Hostname:       104.16.94.235
> Country:        US
> AS:     13335
> AS Name:        CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
> Network:        104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
> Reports:
> Targets:
> First Reported:
> Most Recent Report:
> 
> Whois Info
> 
> NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
> CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
> NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
> NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
> Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
> NetType:        Direct Assignment
> OriginAS:       AS13335
> Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
> RegDate:        2014-03-28
> Updated:        2015-10-01
> Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1
> 
> OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
> OrgId:          CLOUD14
> Address:        101 Townsend Street
> City:           San Francisco
> StateProv:      CA
> PostalCode:     94107
> Country:        US
> RegDate:        2010-07-09
> Updated:        2015-10-08
> Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14
> 
> OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Admin
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> OrgTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
> OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN
> 
> OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName:   Abuse
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
> OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN
> 
> OrgNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
> OrgNOCName:   NOC
> OrgNOCPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
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> 
> RTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
> RTechName:   Admin
> RTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
> RTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN
> 
> RAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
> RAbuseName:   Abuse
> RAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
> RAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN
> 
> RNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
> RNOCName:   NOC
> RNOCPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
> RNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN
> --
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

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#279632

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-12-01 22:00 -0800
Message-ID	<565E8901.579B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279531

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=weECGK2rChcC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
> 
> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein



How about Organized Crime?

https://vault.fbi.gov/organized-crime?b_start:int=20

Frank Sinatra

https://vault.fbi.gov/Frank%20Sinatra


How about Organized Murder?

https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein



Atomic Bomb Incorporated!


"Let's kill those fuckin Germans!!!"


How????


"A single bomb of this

type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory." Alber Einstein

http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein.shtml#first

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#279533

From	Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date	2015-11-29 07:31 -0600
Message-ID	<XcSdnX3AkLikY8fLnZ2dnUU7-QcAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to	#279529

On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!

> https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014

Total Sham:

General Information
IP Address (click for more detail):	104.16.94.235
Hostname:	104.16.94.235
Country:	US
AS:	13335
AS Name:	CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
Network:	104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
Reports:	
Targets:	
First Reported:	
Most Recent Report:	

Whois Info

NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Assignment
OriginAS:       AS13335
Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
RegDate:        2014-03-28
Updated:        2015-10-01
Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1


OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
OrgId:          CLOUD14
Address:        101 Townsend Street
City:           San Francisco
StateProv:      CA
PostalCode:     94107
Country:        US
RegDate:        2010-07-09
Updated:        2015-10-08
Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14


OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Admin
OrgTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
OrgTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   NOC
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
OrgNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
OrgNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN

RTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
RTechName:   Admin
RTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
RTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
RTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN

RAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
RAbuseName:   Abuse
RAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
RAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
RAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN

RNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
RNOCName:   NOC
RNOCPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
RNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
RNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN


-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#279538

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-11-29 08:15 -0800
Message-ID	<565B24B7.EF3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#279533

site: https://www.fbi.gov/ vault

The Vault is our new FOIA Library, containing 6,700 documents and other media ... FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice.

https://vault.fbi.gov/Federal Bureau of Investigation


it's no sham...you're just mistaken, again.


Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 11/29/15 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Over 1,400 pages of investigation by the Federal Bureau of
> > Investigation, released recently under the Freedom of Information Act,
> > into the background of Einstein revealed that he was was a member,
> > sponsor, or affiliated with 34 communist fronts and served as honorary
> > chairman for three communist organizations. The report has the baffling
> > conclusion that Albert Einstein had more Communist affiliations than the
> > Soviet dictator Josef Stalin!
> 
> > https://vault.fbi.gov/Albert%20Einstein/Albert%20Einstein%20Part%205%20of%2014
> 
> Total Sham:
> 
> General Information
> IP Address (click for more detail):     104.16.94.235
> Hostname:       104.16.94.235
> Country:        US
> AS:     13335
> AS Name:        CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc.,US
> Network:        104.16.0.0/12 (104.16.0.0-104.31.255.255) 104.32.0.0
> Reports:
> Targets:
> First Reported:
> Most Recent Report:
> 
> Whois Info
> 
> NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
> CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12
> NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET
> NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1
> Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)
> NetType:        Direct Assignment
> OriginAS:       AS13335
> Organization:   CloudFlare, Inc. (CLOUD14)
> RegDate:        2014-03-28
> Updated:        2015-10-01
> Comment:        https://www.cloudflare.com
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-16-0-0-1
> 
> OrgName:        CloudFlare, Inc.
> OrgId:          CLOUD14
> Address:        101 Townsend Street
> City:           San Francisco
> StateProv:      CA
> PostalCode:     94107
> Country:        US
> RegDate:        2010-07-09
> Updated:        2015-10-08
> Comment:        http://www.cloudflare.com/
> Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/CLOUD14
> 
> OrgTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Admin
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> OrgTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
> OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN
> 
> OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName:   Abuse
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
> OrgAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN
> 
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> OrgNOCName:   NOC
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> OrgNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
> OrgNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN
> 
> RTechHandle: ADMIN2521-ARIN
> RTechName:   Admin
> RTechPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RTechEmail:  admin@cloudflare.com
> RTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ADMIN2521-ARIN
> 
> RAbuseHandle: ABUSE2916-ARIN
> RAbuseName:   Abuse
> RAbusePhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RAbuseEmail:  abuse@cloudflare.com
> RAbuseRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE2916-ARIN
> 
> RNOCHandle: NOC11962-ARIN
> RNOCName:   NOC
> RNOCPhone:  +1-650-319-8930
> RNOCEmail:  noc@cloudflare.com
> RNOCRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11962-ARIN
> 
> --
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

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