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Re: Annotated version of SRT

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Annotated version of SRT
Date 2022-04-11 21:09 +0200
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Am 11.04.2022 um 13:55 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
> Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:48:37 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Certainly not. You goofed. And I can read German. You are dumb.
>>>
>>> Then why don't you read the page about vectorial quantities?
>>>
>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektorielle_Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe
>>>
>>> "In contrast to geometric vectors, a vector quantity does not represent
>>> a spatial displacement. So are e.g. for example, forces are not elements
>>> of position space, but of their own vector space, even if they are
>>> entered in spatial sketches for illustration. In other words: although
>>> they are represented as directed lines, they usually do not have the
>>> dimension of length".
>>
>> Have you even understood what this text means? It has nothing to do with
>> the dimensions of the components of the vector.
>> Your reading comprehension is as bad as your logical reasoning.

Actually I have written about my understand of vectors before I have 
read that article.

I just wanted to mention, that wikipedia actually wrote almost the same 
as I did.

> This German wikipedia text is of poor quality.
> It lacks the modern mathematical understanding of vectors
> as elements of vector spaces.

Vectors are a little older than Wikipedia.

In my oppinion, it was already an error, that Heaviside converted 
Maxwell's equations into the modern vector form.

To me Maxwell himself is the authority, not 'the modern mathematical 
understanding of vectors'.


> (it is understandable that it exists only in other obscure languages)
> And yes, poor understanding of a poor text makes it even worse.
>
> It could be greatly improved by deleting it altogether,
> and by replacing it with a competent translation
> of the corresponding English language page on vectors,

... deleting Wikipedia pages seems to be 'progress in science'...


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  Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 08:40 +0200
    Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 23:56 -0700
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                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-12 18:48 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-12 11:37 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-13 02:37 -0400
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-14 08:36 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-13 23:44 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-14 04:16 -0400
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-14 01:34 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-14 12:47 +0000
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 13:06 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-09 07:48 +0200
    Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-09 14:36 +0200
      Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 06:18 -0700
      Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 08:49 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 23:52 -0700
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 12:54 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 12:51 +0200
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 05:02 -0700
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 21:04 +0200
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 22:08 +0200
              Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:20 -0700
              Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-11 07:48 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-11 08:43 +0000
                Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-11 13:55 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-11 21:09 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-12 02:52 +0000
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-13 07:49 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-13 07:41 +0000
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-14 08:21 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-14 14:38 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-14 07:47 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-14 15:26 +0000
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                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-15 15:46 -0700
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