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Re: RT-Widerlegung

From Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de>
Newsgroups de.sci.physik
Subject Re: RT-Widerlegung
Date 2020-08-19 13:14 +0200
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Am 18.08.2020 um 19:23 schrieb Kurt:
> Am 15.08.2020 um 22:55 schrieb Kurt:
>> Am 15.08.2020 um 22:25 schrieb Ernst Sauer:
...

> 
> Du bist so leise.
> 
> Hast es wohl eingesehen das U2 bei Bewegtsein unterschiedlich schnell taktet, und damit 
> gezeigt werden kann ob die Kiste bewegt ist oder ruht.
> Ganz im Gegensatz zu der Behauptung der RT.
> 
> Es geht nicht nur "bewegt/unbewegt", es geht auch die Geschwindigkeit der Kiste bzw. 
> Plattform. >
> Und das in der Kiste und auch ausserhalb.
> Und das ganz ohne irgendwo "auf die Uhr schauen" zu müssen.

Am 15.08.20 habe ich Dir doch nochmal alles aufgeschrieben,
wie Dein Beispiel zu handhaben ist und wo Dein Anwendungsfehler liegt.


Wo liegt Dein Unverständnis?

1.) Verstehst Du die vorliegende, einfache Relativbewegung nicht?
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Statt einer drehenden Scheibe nehme ich aus zeichnerischen Gründen ein umlaufendes
Rollband, mit v_o(ben), v_u(nten), mit +v nach rechts.
Das Rollband befindet sich in Deiner Kiste, die Uhren auch.

a) _Die Kiste ruht_, das Band rollt/dreht, mit Umfangsgeschwindigkeit im Uhrzeigersinn,
v_U1 ist die Geschwindigkeit Deiner Uhr U1, v_o, v_u die Geschw. der Uhren U2

               v_o = +v    --->   (v_o - v_U1 = +v)
v_U1=0
               v_u = -v    <---   (v_u - v_U1 = -v)

b) _Die Kiste (mit Rollband)  bewegt sich_ mit der Geschw. w nach reechts

               v_o = +v + w  --->   (v_o - v_U1 = +v)
v_U1=w
               v_u = -v + w  <---   (v_u - v_U1 = -v)
---
Die Beträge der _RelativGeschw._ sind für die Uhren U2_ob/un also gleich |v_U2| = |v|

Aus der Gleichung zur Berechnung der Zeitdilatation
         t_U2 = t_U * Wurzel(1 - (v/c)²)
ergibt sich also kein Gangunterschied für die Uhren oben/unten.


2.) Oder behauptest Du, die Uhr U2 merkt auf irgend eine geheimnisvolle Art,
dass sich die Kiste mit einer _absoluten_ Geschwindigkeit bewegt.
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Dann stolperst Du aber über die Frage, welche Geschwindigkeit merkt sie denn,
die der Kiste, oder die der Erde, oder die der Sonne, oder der Milchstraße ...?
Mit diesen Systemen ist die Kiste nun mal verbunden.

Darüber werden schon die alten Griechen nachgedacht haben erst recht
Galilei, Newton und Einstein.

Herausgekommen ist Newtons Gleichung F = m*a (nicht F = IrgentdEtwas * v)
und Einsteins SRT.

> 
> Noch einen Stuhlsäger habe ich für dich:
> 
> In der Kiste zwei Blitzlampen, eine vorne eine hinten.
> Sie blitzen gleichzeitig.

Gleichzeitig für welchen Beobachter?

> Der Beobachter in der Mitte der Kiste kann an der Differenz/keine Differenz der 
> einkommenden Lichtblitze erkennen ob er samt der Kiste bewegt ist oder nicht.
> Natürlich auch wie schnell er samt der Kiste bewegt ist.

Und das ist nun mal falsch, weil Gleichzeitigkeit relativ ist,
das weiß man auch als Inschenjör und ein Elektromeister sollte es
langsam auch kapiert haben.

es


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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-02 12:00 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-19 15:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-20 18:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-17 23:12 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-18 09:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 09:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 11:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 12:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 14:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 20:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-22 14:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 10:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 22:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-24 11:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 22:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-25 07:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 09:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-25 11:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 11:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-26 14:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 15:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-26 15:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 16:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-26 22:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-26 15:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-26 17:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 17:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-26 19:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 20:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 20:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-26 20:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 21:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 20:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 21:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:12 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:36 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 21:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 15:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 13:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 22:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 07:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 10:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 10:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 12:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 00:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 00:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 23:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 16:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 18:29 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-26 15:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 10:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 11:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 15:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 13:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 22:34 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 22:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-26 13:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 13:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 00:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:26 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-25 23:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 07:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-18 08:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 08:46 +0200
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-15 18:00 +0200
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 13:04 +0200
  Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-15 07:33 +0200
    Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <fritz2011@gmx-topmail.de> - 2020-09-15 18:02 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-15 19:53 +0200
        Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-15 20:41 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.com> - 2020-09-16 15:41 +0200
        Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-16 17:09 +0200
    Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-21 08:32 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-21 08:46 +0200

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