Re: RT-Widerlegung

From	Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: RT-Widerlegung
Date	2020-08-15 10:41 +0200
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Am 12.08.2020 um 18:25 schrieb Kurt:
> Am 12.08.2020 um 13:06 schrieb Ernst Sauer:
>> Am 12.08.2020 um 07:59 schrieb Kurt:
>>> Am 10.08.2020 um 14:20 schrieb Kurt:
>>>> Am 10.08.2020 um 13:41 schrieb Ernst Sauer:
>>>>> Am 10.08.2020 um 13:20 schrieb Kurt:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>> Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Die Antwort bist du immer noch schuldig geblieben.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also nochmal:
>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>> Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Das habe ich Dir am 07.08.2020 um 14:08 klar beantwortet.
>>>>>
>>>>> es
>>>>
>>>> Hast du nicht.
>>>>
>>>> Hier die Frage nochmal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------
>>>> Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
>>>> Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
>>>> -----------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Verhalten sich beide unterschiedlich?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Kurt
>>>
>>> Ist die Frage denn so schwierig das du sie nicht beantworten kannst?
>>> (was verbietet es dir das zu tun?)
>>>
>>>   Kurt
>>
>> Deine seltsame und einsam herumstehende Frage habe ich in einen
>> konkreten Zusammenhang gestellt, habe dazu ein ein System definiert
>> und die frage beantwortet (07.08.2020, 14:08).
> 
> Nein, du hast eine Frage beantwortet die ich garnicht gestellt habe.
> 
> ------------------
> Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
> Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
> -----------------
> 
> Da gibts nur ein ja oder nein als mögliche Antwort.
> 
>   Kurt
> 

Denkst du immer noch nach?

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Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
-----------------

Da du dich eindeutig davor drückst eine klare Antwort zu geben muss man 
wohl davon ausgehen das dir dies nicht so recht "bekommt".
Bringt sie doch die Grundaussage der RT in arge Bedrängnis.
Egal was du sagst, beidemale ist die Grundaussage der RT als falsch 
entlarft, damit die Grundlage der RT weg, damit die ganze Theorie für 
die Tonne.

Es ist halt nunmal so das es keinen Grund gibt zu behaupten das es 
unmöglich ist zu erkennen ob die Kiste ruht oder gleichförmig bewegt ist.
In Gegenteil, es gibt einen Grund, und da kann man sich direkt auf eine 
andere Aussage der RT berufen, zu behaupten das die RT auf falschen 
Grundannahmen steht.
Nämlich die Aussage das bewege Uhren langsamer gehen.
Heisst: unbewegte Uhren takten am schnellsten.
Das ergibt die Möglichkeit den Ruhezustand zu erkennen.

  Kurt





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Das Relativitätsprinzip besagt, dass die Naturgesetze für alle 
Beobachter dieselbe Form haben. Einfache Überlegungen zeigen, dass es 
aus diesem Grund unmöglich ist, einen bevorzugten oder absoluten 
Bewegungszustand irgendeines Beobachters oder Objekts festzustellen. Das 
heißt, es können nur die Bewegungen der Körper relativ zu anderen 
Körpern, nicht jedoch die Bewegungen der Körper relativ zu einem 
bevorzugten Bezugssystem festgestellt werden.
----------------------------------------------


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"Das Relativitätsprinzip besagt, dass die Naturgesetze für alle 
Beobachter dieselbe Form haben."
---------

Heisst: "Ich rede viel und sage nichts".


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"Einfache Überlegungen zeigen, dass es aus diesem Grund unmöglich ist, 
einen bevorzugten oder absoluten Bewegungszustand irgendeines 
Beobachters oder Objekts festzustellen"
---------

Da wird den Leuten einfach was induziert/behauptet, sie müssen sich 
selber ein "Bild" zusammenbasteln und das Behauptete einfach glauben.

Es ist nämlich so das einfache Überlegungen, frei von Manipulation, 
genau das Gegenteil von dem ergeben was hier "vermittelt" wird.

Sie ergeben nämlich das es selbstverständlich möglich ist einen 
Unbewegtzustand zu erkennen, ja sogar zu erlangen.

Arme Physik, was hat man aus dir gemacht!

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  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Torn Rumero DeBrak <nobody@invalid.invalid> - 2020-07-27 20:20 +0200
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-07-27 21:47 +0200
      Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Torn Rumero DeBrak <nobody@invalid.invalid> - 2020-07-27 23:15 +0200
        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2020-07-28 10:26 +0200
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-07-29 08:28 +0200
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 08:46 +0200
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-29 09:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 09:09 +0200
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-07-29 09:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 09:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-29 09:44 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-07-29 11:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-29 12:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 14:25 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-29 14:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-07-29 17:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 17:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-07-29 21:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 21:09 +0200
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                RT-Widerlegung Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-30 21:52 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-07-31 18:46 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-31 19:01 +0200
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-07 15:24 +0200
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-19 23:31 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-19 23:41 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-21 08:45 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-21 11:36 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-22 09:27 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-22 17:53 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-24 19:08 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-25 07:43 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-25 19:23 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Roalto <Roalto@online.de> - 2020-08-25 10:52 -0700
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-25 20:31 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-26 00:39 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-27 20:01 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-28 01:51 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-30 21:16 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-08-30 22:39 +0200
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-08-31 13:17 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-31 15:57 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Roalto <Roalto@online.de> - 2020-08-28 02:39 -0700
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-28 11:56 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-08-28 19:30 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Billy Bob <bibo@chammy.info> - 2020-08-20 15:35 +0200
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-08-19 16:36 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-19 15:58 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-08-19 16:31 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-19 16:56 +0200
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                Re: RT-Widerlegung Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-31 19:24 +0200
                Re: RT-Widerlegung Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-31 19:47 +0200
            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2020-07-29 18:01 +0200
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-07-29 21:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-07-29 21:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-01 20:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-02 12:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2020-08-02 12:12 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-03 21:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-03 23:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-04 09:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-04 09:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-08-05 21:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-06 09:02 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-10 11:14 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-08-10 11:10 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-14 22:52 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-15 17:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-15 17:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-16 07:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-16 11:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-16 11:14 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-16 13:10 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-17 10:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-17 14:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-17 16:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-17 20:05 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-17 20:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-18 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-18 16:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-19 15:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-20 18:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-17 23:12 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-18 09:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 09:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 11:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 12:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-21 14:21 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 20:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-22 14:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:37 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 10:57 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 22:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-24 11:27 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 22:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-25 07:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 09:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-25 11:18 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 11:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 14:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-25 15:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 13:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 13:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-21 22:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-21 23:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 07:33 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 10:01 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-22 10:16 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-09-22 13:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:47 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 12:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:22 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 20:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 21:59 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:17 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 23:03 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 00:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 00:51 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-23 23:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:53 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-25 16:56 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 10:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 11:08 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 15:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:19 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 12:50 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 13:45 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 13:54 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:02 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:39 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:41 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:42 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 14:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:07 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:09 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 16:46 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 16:49 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:06 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:15 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-09-25 17:20 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 17:38 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 22:30 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-22 22:55 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-23 09:10 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-23 13:13 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-23 23:32 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-24 00:52 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-09-24 14:31 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-09-24 23:26 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 07:40 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-18 08:24 +0200
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-18 08:46 +0200
              Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Fritz <mogined@nurfuerspam.de> - 2020-09-15 18:00 +0200
          Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-15 13:04 +0200
  Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-15 07:33 +0200
    Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Fritz - Till Eulenspiegel und Trollfuetterer <fritz2011@gmx-topmail.de> - 2020-09-15 18:02 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-15 19:53 +0200
        Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-15 20:41 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Carsten Thumulla <ct@ct.com> - 2020-09-16 15:41 +0200
        Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-16 17:09 +0200
    Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-09-21 08:32 +0200
      Re: Neue 'annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'' Sebastian Wolf <invalid@invalid.net> - 2020-09-21 08:46 +0200

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