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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project |
| Date | 2022-09-17 04:02 +0000 |
| Organization | Some absurd concept |
| Message-ID | <eli$2209170002@qaz.wtf> (permalink) |
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In comp.os.linux.misc, 25B.Z969 <25B.Z969@noda.net> wrote:
> Look ... it's just not ready for prime time - that's
> the fact. When it is it'll come in a nice .deb and .rpm
> and will install easy and clean. For now it's 'beta-ware',
> maybe 'gamma-ware'.
If it's only going to be SerenityOS, that may be a forever wait.
https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird/issues/2#issuecomment-1177684116
SerenityOS is a project for developers, by developers. End users are
expected to be the developers themselves. I doubt the development
flow of the ladybird browser will be any different, especially if
(when?) it's folded back into the main serenity project monorepo.
We've discussed this on discord many times for things like nightly
ISOs of SerenityOS, and always come back to the fact that the build
steps serve as an intentional but (very) low barrier of entry to
ensure that the person running the code is at least capable of
contributing code back.
If someone wants to host their own builds of either Serenity or its
derived non-serenity applications on their own, I don't think anyone
will be upset, but please don't expect a community of developers who
are doing things because they're fun to develop to support an
extremely WIP project at the level of other existing browsers for
non-developer users.
A notice that "there's no support, build it and please contribute
back" will likely not be read by people who download the project,
try to visit their favorite website, find out it doesn't load, and
then clutter the issue tracker with "I went to website X and it
crashed" with no actionable backtrace or other bug triaging
information.
> Oh, and do we really NEED another web browser ??? Everybody
> is after a seriously de-junked FireFox or Chromium - but I'm
> not sure that's a viable option anymore. People expect a LOT
> of browsers now and too much de-junking means a serious lack
> of desired capabilities. Any new product - there's be a huge
> lobby demanding they ADD all those junky features.
I believe having a variety of web browsers is good for the Internet.
What's the current state of affairs? A bunch of things derived from
Konquerer (Safari, Chrome, Chromium, Edge), plus a small smattering
of Firefox and things derived from Firefox (mostly people trying to
stick to older versions through forks), and maybe some Opera.
(And us rare few who still use _text_ mode browsers. I'm in that 0.1% of
the 0.1% who has and uses lynx from a cellphone.)
Elijah
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doesn't have a modern enough c++ pipeline to compile Ladybird now
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