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Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project

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On 9/16/22 11:45 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2022-09-17, 25B.Z969 <25B.Z969@noda.net> wrote:
> 
>> Oh, and do we really NEED another web browser ??? Everybody
>> is after a seriously de-junked FireFox or Chromium - but I'm
>> not sure that's a viable option anymore.
> 
> It sounds to me like Ladybird is an attempt to make it a viable option.
> 
>> People expect a LOT of browsers now and too much de-junking means
>> a serious lack of desired capabilities.
> 
> I think the point of the exercise is to produce a browser that has
> a serious lack of _undesired_ capabilities.


   Undesired by WHOM ??? That's the nasty bit. What YOU see
   as "undesired" many other may want very badly.

   Mozilla caters to the mass audience. So does Chromium.


>> Any new product - there's be a huge lobby demanding they ADD
>> all those junky features.
> 
> Perhaps - but there's also a small lobby demanding that they
> _don't_ do so.
> 
>> SHOULD browsers do all Firefox/Chromium do ? Probably not, it's
>> an invite to the malicious. So is using Winders for that matter.
>> Are people going to drop all of those ? NO ! May as well tell
>> them to throw away the credit cards and start paying for
>> everything in person in gold dust. Ain't gonna happen.
> 
> If the masses want a huge, awkward, insecure browser, fine.
> Let them fill their boots.  That doesn't mean, though, that
> someone shouldn't try to satisfy the minority that neither
> wants nor needs all those bells and whistles.
> 
> As for web sites that insist on using all these bells and
> whistles whether they're necessary or not, maybe it's time
> to complain to the companies that create them - and boycott
> them if they refuse to cut back on the bloat.


   They paid good money for consumer surveys. That's why
   they added all the eye-candy and "helpers" and other crap.
   There will be NO cut-backs, increases instead. You won't
   be able to use their sites otherwise. They'll sacrifice
   the one or two wiser percent to gorge on the 98%.


> There's room in the world for more than one web browser.

   As we've noticed - there's a LOT of them. Firefox/Chrom(ium)
   and to a small percent Edge and Opera ... 99% use THEM.
   Go ahead, write web browsers ... only a handful will use them.
   Consumers WANT all the eye-candy and "personalized experience"
   and "helpful suggestions" and convenient history and the rest -
   the crap I spend ten or fifteen minutes turning OFF every time
   I install FFox and ADDING script-controls and such. I know
   better - Joe User does NOT. Sure, tell him to use Dillo2 ...
   it's out there, it's free - Joe WON'T.

   Just tellin' it like it is.

   LadyBird will go down in flames of disinterest.

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