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Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project

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On 2022-09-19, 25B.Z969 <25B.Z969@noda.net> wrote:

> On 9/19/22 1:12 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> Why should a minority cohort of web browser users (or any other
>> cohort, for that matter) be considered inferior to the masses?
>> After all, it's our collective reluctance to drink the Apple
>> kool-aid or bow and pray in the direction of Redmond five times
>> a day that is the reason this newsgroup - and OS - exists at all.
>
>    I understand what you're saying ... but I'm still talking
>    about 95+ percent of real-world users. Having a very popular
>    browser makes money in various ways. Few users, few $$$, the
>    development/debugging falls off and sooner or later ....

True, but for us die-hards there are a number of alternative still
available, especially if we don't insist on having all the latest
bells and whistles as dictated by the fashion of the day.  There are
LibreOffice and xpdf for documents, gimp for picture editing, sox
for sound editing, etc.  Not the prettiest, perhaps, but functional -
and free, not only in price but also in not being a prison.

>    MS has tried to ensure that a number of important system
>    features/updates/etc ONLY work right through Edge.

Ah yes, I remember the days where so many web sites said, "Best
viewed with Internet Explorer."  That attitude is still prevalent,
but it's more subtle now.  (And that's why I'm in favour of any
efforts to create alternative browsers.)

>    I tend to stay away from Apple, but if it doesn't do that yet
>    with it's brand browser then it soon will. That's control
>    and, indirectly, screwing the competition.

The few times I use Apple products, I get the impression that
it's not so much that I'm using them, but that they're using me.

>    As for FFox ... I really don't have much AGAINST the current
>    interface. The huge spyware tilt for searches/settings is
>    what peeves me the most. No, I do NOT want "suggestions" as
>    I proceed, I do NOT want them scanning my history/buffers
>    for said "helpful suggestions", I don't want them checking
>    every word against Google/etc either to provide such "help",
>    I do not want them to fill in my forms or passwords or to
>    remember CCard numbers. I'll tell 'em what they can stick
>    in their 'Pocket' too. Gotta turn all that OFF first thing,
>    then go into the config settings and do MORE damage just
>    to be sure. I shouldn't have to wreck an important bit of
>    software just to use it.

True, but as you said above, real world...

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/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  Linux is anarchy.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  Pick your poison.

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        Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-16 23:06 -0400
          Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-09-17 03:45 +0000
            Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-09-17 08:02 +0200
              Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2022-09-18 09:22 +1000
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            Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-18 22:38 -0400
              Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-09-19 05:12 +0000
                Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-19 10:10 -0400
                Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-09-19 16:58 +0000
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                Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-09-21 00:51 -0400
                Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-09-20 17:55 +0000
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                Re: Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2022-09-21 09:17 +1000
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