Re: Mac Malware

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mac Malware
Date	2017-03-14 22:13 +0000
Message-ID	<eir87rFjubnU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2017-03-14 15:19:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
>> Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Did you download that thing from a site like VersionTracker, MacUpdate, or
>>>> CNET Downloads? All three of those services are well-known for modifying
>>>> installers on their sites to add adware to them.
>>>> 
>>>> As a rule, I never download software through third parties.
>>> 
>>> I agree about going to the developer's site, and also about
>>> VersionTracker and CNET.
>>> 
>>> Are you correct about MacUpdate? I know that they introduced this at one
>>> point and got a very negative response from users. I never heard if the
>>> went back to the better policy as a result or if they stayed with
>>> including adware. They lost me when they started this, so I never
>>> checked to see if they still do it.
>> 
>> Yep, I'm sure of it. They are NOT to be trusted.
> 
> I've used them for about four years and have had no problems with 
> adware.  

You are a paying customer, right? IIRC, they don't foist adware installers
on their paying customers (oh, how gracious of them to extort money just
for ad-free installers! Praise be!).

> A couple of years ago they were messing up some downloads 
> though, leaving the program inoperable.  

They are still bundling adware in their downloaded installers:

<https://blog.malwarebytes.com/cybercrime/2015/11/has-macupdate-fallen-to-the-adware-plague/>

<http://mjtsai.com/blog/2015/11/04/macupdate-adware-installers/>

> For this reason I started 
> using their system only to *find out* which of my apps needed updating, 
> and then updating them myself.

The only way I recommend using macupdate or any other software tracking
site is to use it strictly as a reference and go directly to the source to
actually download the software.

> They managed to correct that issue and so for about two years I've let 
> them do the updating of apps directly.  

Yep - paying customer. MacUpdate Desktop isn't free last I checked, right?

> Again no issues.  

You'll need to try it without being logged in and after deleting all of
their cookies to see the adware infested installers. And you'd have to
download them directly from the web site rather than through MacUpdate
Desktop.

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JR

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