Re: Mac Malware

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mac Malware
Date	2017-03-18 14:49 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnocqids.153.g.kreme@snow.local> (permalink)
References	(12 earlier) <oaaqrv$5m2$2@dont-email.me> <eit60bFmbfU2@mid.individual.net> <oado6c$ubg$2@dont-email.me> <160320171055382560%nospam@nospam.invalid> <oagg8p$ifg$1@dont-email.me>

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In message <oagg8p$ifg$1@dont-email.me> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-03-16 14:55:38 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

>> In article <oado6c$ubg$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We don't even have a Wacom tablet in the shop...  so it had to be
>>>>> installed on the sly.
>>>> 
>>>> That means your real problem is that you are allowing just anyone to
>>>> have administrative access to those computers.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, well, if they were MINE, it wouldn't be happening... but I'm not
>>> there 24 hours a day.
>> 
>> no need to be there 24 hours a day.

> What?  How would I know what happens in the 16 hours I'm not there, then?

> Fact of the matter is we run 3 shifts... and anything can happen on a 
> single shift that nobody on the other two shifts will know about.

That is simply not how a business that wants to stay in business
operates.

> Not to mention that the machines need to be left on, and running in 
> order to make changes on press.

That doesn't mean anyone needs admin access.

> They can't be secured from other departments because they need to run 
> the equipment the computers control.

Of course they can.

> At almost a thousand dollars an hour press time, the machine that burns 
> our printing plates has to be accessible 24/7.

It does not have to be accessible to random people making changes and
installing unauthorized software. That is beyond foolish, it is
delinquent. If you fuck up a customer's print job because some yahoo
installed ransom ware, your company is going to be out of business.


-- 
you cannot code around infinite implementations of OCD -John C Welch

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                Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:23 +0000
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