Re: Mac Malware

From	FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mac Malware
Date	2017-03-16 06:09 -0400
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On 2017-03-15 15:45:06 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2017-03-15, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-03-13 14:42:08 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>> 
>>> So it wasn't that "so much crap" had been left behind by numerous apps;
>>> it's that one piece of software for Wacom tablet drivers wasn't
>>> completely removed. I get the attraction to utilities that go looking
>>> for cruft to remove; but the fact is this problem you encountered is
>>> easily avoided by following the removal instructions recommended by the
>>> manufacturer of said software. If you always use the recommended removal
>>> procedure, you won't have this issue. I'm living proof of this, BTW. : )
>> 
>> Well, one piece for sure.  We cleaned out everything because we're in
>> the business of printing, and not in the business of playing with
>> computers.
> 
> There's really nothing to "play with" when you use the removal method
> recommended by the software maker.
> 
>> We didn't even KNOW somebody had installed the Wacom software.  I have
>> to assume it was done on an off-shift by someone who was using his
>> tablet on his own time.
> 
> Wacom software installs drivers that require administrative access to
> install. Do you let just anyone have administrator access to your Macs?
> That seems like a *really* bad idea. Why not use the Guest account
> feature built into macOS to let strangers have access in a more secure
> fashion?
> 
>> In work, our Macs are just tools...
> 
> To *most* people, computers are just tools.
> 
>> One of them still runs Snow Leopard, for fuck's sake!  We even have an
>> old blue and white G3 that runs OS9 in "classic" mode - just so we can
>> run an old version of Fontographer.
> 
> That's not uncommon. I have two Mac minis running Snow Leopard in my
> house.
> 
>> And before you ask, we only use it to make the .afm files our old
>> Packaging software requires.  My supervisor isn't going to authorize
>> spending another $400.00 just to make an .afm file a couple of times a
>> year.
> 
> I strictly control what my old Snow Leopard machines do, and I don't
> open any services on them to internet traffic due to the many security
> holes they have that have since been patched in later operating system
> versions.
> 
> Anyway it sounds like your supervisor should invest just a little time
> in securing your Macs so that unauthorized strangers can't install stuff
> on them which requires administrative access.

Do *I* let just anybody have access to *my* Macs?

I don't administer the Macs... otherwise we wouldn't have these problems.
Somebody installed MacKeeper once...  That took a day or two to eradicate.

You try explaining to an Offset Manager why we should restrict the Macs 
to certain people...  I certainly haven't had any luck.

We're a commercial print shop... most people who use the machines are 
just using them as tools.  They're not computer people, they're 
packaging people.
-- 
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"How bad does something have to be, that Donald Trump doesn't want to 
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