Re: Windose 10

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Windose 10
Date	2016-12-26 12:57 +1100
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"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 11:50 AM, felix wrote:
>> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 11:43 AM, felix wrote:
>>> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 11:27 AM, felix wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 11:16 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 9:36 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:ecarj3Fk6d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On Monday, 26 Dec 2016 12:26 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 Dec 2016 5:49 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:ec95dpF7tbiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 Dec 2016 12:06 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 24 Dec 2016 10:09 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/12/2016 7:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 23 Dec 2016 10:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've now determined that the problem is that the none of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SATA ports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are working. the hard drive is not being seen and not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showing up in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bios. so I assume that can only mean the SATA ports are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cactus, as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive has power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok it has power, but have you tried it in another PC to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control electronics have thrown in the towl?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any chance that the BIOS settings have got scrambled due to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glitch or a failing backup battery and the SATA controller's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's showing up in the 'boot' section of the bios, and at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> startup on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank black screen, but it's not showing as detected on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sata port in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's probably because your Bios is in AHCI mode
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> which won't show drives there. Change the Bios to legacy mode 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and see if you can get it to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> still won't boot and still doesn't show on the sata port
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Needs to be under 2tb).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1Tb
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a faulty MB. It sounds like the standard windows boot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sector issue, which could indicate a drive that has a failed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot sector or the bcd file has been corrupted. Put it in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> other machine on another sata port and run from an admin dos 
>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt chkdsk x: /r where x: is the drive letter given to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive by your machine. It may resolve the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You could also try this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Command Prompt from Advanced Startup Options or System 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recovery Options menu. Note: The Command Prompt available from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> these diagnostic menus is very similar to the one you may be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with within Windows. ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> At the prompt, type the bootrec command as shown below and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> press Enter: bootrec /rebuildbcd.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, thanks I'll try those after Xmas. see, you are good for 
>>>>>>>>>>> something after all.. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't wait. I tried it last night. no different. btw.. the 
>>>>>>>>>> win10 message I get is 'inaccessible boot device' which still 
>>>>>>>>>> seems to indicate a hardware problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's just saying it can't see a boot drive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd reset the cmos and see if the SATA ports work again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok I'll give that a try tomorrow, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very unlikely to be a hardware failure with all 8 sata ports
>>>>>>>>> going missing given that 6 of them are on 1 chip and the
>>>>>>>>> other two are on a different one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> makes sense
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing much shows up with google and that
>>>>>>>>> motherboard, ask the manufacturer about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've established the SATA ports are working. I installed Linux on a 
>>>>>>> DVD and booted with a SATA drive connected and I could read the 
>>>>>>> drive and load files. seems it's nothing more than a corrupt win10 
>>>>>>> 64 bit installation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, looks like it. And if you had made the recovery disk
>>>>>> when it was still working, it may have been able to recover it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll certainly make one when it's up and running again. or maybe there 
>>>>> is some third party recovery software I could use? or does M$ have any 
>>>>> 'after the event' repair program that can be put on disc? I'll start 
>>>>> googling..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ill try this..
>>>>
>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Repair-Corrupted-Windows-10-System-Files/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> can't. no mouse pointer :(
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I see now I can get the dos box via advanced options. if the scan doesn't 
>> work, I'll try system restore from the latest restore point (if it's 
>> accessible)
>>
>
> it's now saying there are no restore points, but there are (were) It's 
> looking like I'll just have to restore from an image of the drive.

That's not that uncommon.

> maybe some virus got thru and screwed the drive?

More likely win just lost the restore points, that can happen.

> I was using avast on that PC

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Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-21 18:20 +1100
  Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 18:36 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 03:13 -0800
      Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 05:59 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 06:49 +1100
      Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-22 07:50 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 08:16 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-22 08:32 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:46 +1100
              Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-22 10:04 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 11:48 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-12-22 07:33 +1000
          Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-22 08:41 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-12-22 16:08 +0000
              Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-23 06:09 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-24 07:54 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 "John" <dj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 11:34 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 22:30 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-12-21 21:46 +0000
      Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 09:48 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-22 10:06 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-22 11:49 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-22 15:13 +1100
              Re: Windose 10 "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-12-22 14:42 +1000
      Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-22 15:12 +1100
  Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-21 22:06 +1100
  Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-22 15:08 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-12-22 14:44 +1000
      Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-22 21:05 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-12-22 16:21 +0000
      Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-23 17:47 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 10:52 +1100
      Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-23 17:49 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 17:57 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-23 19:11 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-24 20:29 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-12-23 11:28 +0000
          Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-12-24 05:46 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-12-24 07:19 +1000
              Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-24 20:47 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-24 20:46 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-24 20:50 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 07:34 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-24 20:59 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 Grumpy Tech <grumpytech07@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 21:09 +1000
              Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-25 00:06 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-25 16:57 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 17:49 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 00:26 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 08:21 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 09:36 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 11:16 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 11:27 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 11:43 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 11:50 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-26 12:36 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 12:57 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.org> - 2016-12-26 12:02 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 12:51 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-12-26 11:52 +1000
                Re: Windose 10 Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-27 18:26 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.org> - 2016-12-25 09:30 +1100
  Re: Windose 10 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-22 21:30 +1000
    Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-23 00:07 +1100
      Re: Windose 10 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 09:13 +1100
  Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-28 20:35 +1100
    Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.org> - 2016-12-29 04:52 +1100
      Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-29 21:15 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-29 22:27 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-29 22:34 +1100
            Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-29 22:53 +1100
              Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-29 23:41 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 05:54 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 11:01 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 11:04 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 13:27 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-30 16:08 +1000
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 17:32 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.org> - 2016-12-30 19:26 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-30 23:54 +1000
                Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 17:35 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 21:09 +1100
                Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 21:07 +1100
              Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 05:53 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 05:52 +1100
        Re: Windose 10 Jeßus <j@j.org> - 2016-12-30 11:43 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 13:25 +1100
          Re: Windose 10 Grumpy Tech <grumpytech07@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:15 +1000
            Re: Windose 10 felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-30 15:40 +1100

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