Re: Java - To install or not to install

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Java - To install or not to install
Date	2016-10-08 16:25 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<e5sl0gF8mtoU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	<2016100809200284022-xxx@yyyzzz>

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On 2016-10-08, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> In the meandering "sierra" thread there's all this back and forth about 
> java being mandatory/not mandatory for another application.  I don't 
> care about that application.
>
> But I am struck curious by so many folks apparently adamant that java 
> not be on their system.  Is this reluctance wide-spread or predominant? 
>  What's the complaint?  I update it like I update everything on my 
> system, regularly.  As with many such things, I don't know much about 
> what it does or doesn't do, I just want things to (continute to) 
> operate smoothly.

It's about security. Java offers yet another vector (actually multiple
vectors) for attack. If it's not needed, it shouldn't be installed. 

<http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/01/31/apple-blocks-java-on-macs-due-to-vulnerabilities/1880783/>

<http://www.macworld.com/article/2028900/how-to-disable-java-on-your-mac.html>

<https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/02/good-riddance-to-oracles-java-plugin/>

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Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 09:20 -0700
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 16:25 +0000
    Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 11:56 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 11:59 -0700
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 19:37 +0000
          Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 13:53 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 14:01 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-09 11:42 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 17:46 -0700
  Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:13 -0500
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 20:22 +0000
  Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-09 11:41 +1100
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:20 -0400
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-08 23:43 -0400
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 04:24 +0000
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-09 10:59 -0400
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 16:41 +0100
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-09 18:21 +0200
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 17:40 +0100
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:43 -0400
          Re: Java - To install or not to install nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:47 -0400
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 18:45 +0100
              Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 11:37 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 14:40 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 23:02 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Phillip Jones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2016-10-09 19:39 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 09:11 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 15:42 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-16 22:20 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 13:44 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-15 13:37 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 17:44 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 15:54 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 15:12 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:29 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 05:39 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 09:05 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:59 +1100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:30 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 14:12 +1100
          Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:57 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 17:47 +0000
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 16:47 -0700
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:40 -0400
          Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-10 17:30 -0500
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-12 11:28 -0400
              Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 11:58 -0500
      Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-09 13:22 -0500
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 13:36 +0200
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-09 09:51 -0400
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 15:48 +0100
      Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-09 13:24 -0500
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 19:53 +0100
      Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:55 +1100
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 17:45 +0000
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-10 05:19 -0400
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 11:51 +0200
        Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 11:51 +0200
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 12:24 +0200
            Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 12:51 +0200
              Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 13:19 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 13:03 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 14:29 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 14:03 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 15:27 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-10 17:43 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:49 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 13:41 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-10 17:38 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 23:18 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:30 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-12 11:26 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-12 16:45 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:06 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:17 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:05 -0500
            Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-11 09:50 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 13:38 +0000
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:51 -0400
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 23:16 +0000

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