Re: Java - To install or not to install

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Java - To install or not to install
Date	2016-10-10 05:39 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnnvmac6.1g1f.g.kreme@snow.local> (permalink)
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In message <2016100916293054785-xxx@yyyzzz> 
  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-10-09 19:12:18 +0000, Alan Browne said:

>> On 2016-10-09 14:37, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-09 17:45:45 +0000, Tim Streater said:
>>> 
>>>>> apps written in java generally do not use native ui elements, so they
>>>>> look different and don't integrate as well as a native app.
>>>> 
>>>> The app is CyberDuck, an FTP program. Apparently it uses something
>>>> called Java Native Access to make it look like a proper app.
>>> 
>>> Woah--that's noteworthy! I've diabled Java in my browser, but CyberDuck
>>> I use frequently.  I have not scrubbed Java from my system, but since I
>>> use CyberDuck it looks like I shouldn't do that, right?
>> 
>> I use FileZilla which is not an endorsement - I don't find it all that 
>> intuitive to set up.  Works fine once you've ironed the settings out. 
>> Use such so little that I haven't had to go looking for something else. 
>> Used to use CyberDuck OUAT.

> I tried FileZilla and found it a nuisance.

Agreed. Filezilla mostly works, but it's pretty terrible and it look
like something from 1999.

It's been a long time since I used ftp, but I used Fetch,
Anarchy/Interarchy a lot back in the day. These days I'd probably use
Transmission or just the Mac finder.

-- 
'Listen,' said Rincewind. 'It's all over, do you see? You can't put the
spells back in the book, you can't unsay what's been said, you can't-'
'You can try!' --The Light Fantastic

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Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 09:20 -0700
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 16:25 +0000
    Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 11:56 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 11:59 -0700
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-08 19:37 +0000
          Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 13:53 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-08 14:01 -0700
      Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-09 11:42 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-08 17:46 -0700
  Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-08 14:13 -0500
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-08 20:22 +0000
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-10-28 20:30 +0100
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:11 +0000
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 22:33 -0600
  Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-09 11:41 +1100
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-08 21:20 -0400
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-08 23:43 -0400
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 04:24 +0000
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-09 10:59 -0400
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 16:41 +0100
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-09 18:21 +0200
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 17:40 +0100
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:43 -0400
          Re: Java - To install or not to install nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 12:47 -0400
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 18:45 +0100
              Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 11:37 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-09 14:40 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-09 23:02 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Phillip Jones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2016-10-09 19:39 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 09:11 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 15:42 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-16 22:20 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 13:44 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-15 13:37 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 17:44 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 15:54 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-09 15:12 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:29 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 05:39 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 09:05 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:59 +1100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-09 16:30 -0700
                Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 14:12 +1100
          Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:57 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 17:47 +0000
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-09 16:47 -0700
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:40 -0400
          Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-10 17:30 -0500
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-12 11:28 -0400
              Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 11:58 -0500
      Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-09 13:22 -0500
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-10-15 13:36 +0200
  Re: Java - To install or not to install Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-09 09:51 -0400
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 15:48 +0100
      Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-09 13:24 -0500
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-09 19:53 +0100
      Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-10 09:55 +1100
    Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-09 17:45 +0000
      Re: Java - To install or not to install Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-10 05:19 -0400
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 11:51 +0200
        Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 11:51 +0200
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 12:24 +0200
            Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 12:51 +0200
              Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 13:19 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 13:03 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 14:29 +0200
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-10-10 14:03 +0100
                Re: Java - To install or not to install befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-10 15:27 +0200
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                Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:49 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 13:41 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-10 17:38 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 23:18 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-11 17:30 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-12 11:26 -0400
                Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-12 16:45 +0000
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:06 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:17 -0500
                Re: Java - To install or not to install "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-12 12:05 -0500
            Re: Java - To install or not to install dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-11 09:50 +1100
        Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 13:38 +0000
          Re: Java - To install or not to install Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-10-10 12:51 -0400
            Re: Java - To install or not to install Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-10 23:16 +0000

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