Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen
Date	2016-01-18 12:10 +1100
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On 18-January-2016 10:14 AM, Clocky wrote:
> On 18/01/2016 4:42 AM, felix wrote:
>> On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
>>>>> On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <me@nothere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose you can see a difference when using two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well you are completely wrong there because there are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are a lost cause :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce the same result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
>>>>>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>>>>> audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>> affects
>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio/video quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Espouse your theories there. Please do :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstated).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>> three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous to be for real.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you must be as stupid as he is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're trolling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
>>>>>>>> reinstated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no answer I see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
>>>>>>>> ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a 
>>>>>>>> bearing on
>>>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>> You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital 
>>>>>>> signals
>>>>>>> differs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
>>>>>> please..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> connections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI
>>>>>> cable and
>>>>>> then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's 
>>>>>> not so.
>>>>>> you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for 
>>>>>> example, I
>>>>>> suppose? but then.. I suppose not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> < http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they 
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> your silly nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
>>>>>> that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
>>>>> they'd go broke without people like you.
>>>>
>>>> Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of 
>>>> high
>>>> end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
>>>> professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
>>>> characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
>>>> audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
>>>> television and home theatre systems.
>>>>
>>>> (and I can confirm that is so)
>>>>
>>>> Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
>>>> then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore 
>>>> Laboratory, as
>>>> well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
>>>> different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
>>>> when hooked up to loudspeakers.
>>>>
>>>> (exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)
>>>>
>>>>  From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
>>>> Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
>>>> creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
>>>> performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.
>>>>
>>>> Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
>>>> powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to 
>>>> ordinary
>>>> loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is 
>>>> sometimes
>>>> misused to mean any high performance cable.
>>>>
>>>> Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an 
>>>> indispensable
>>>> accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
>>>> professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>>
>>>> More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
>>>> jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound 
>>>> tracks and
>>>> Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx
>>>>
>>>> but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can believe whatever scam you like,
>>
>> because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience do
>> YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?
>>
>
> More then you obviously when you can't even grasp the basics of 
> digital signals.

you're avoiding the question. what testing have YOU personally done of 
AV input/output cables? part of my working career was with a 
manufacturer of hi end audio. why do you think at trade shows they DON'T 
use cheap cables if it makes no difference?

>
>>> but read this and understand why what you think you see is impossible
>>> with HDMI.
>>>
>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> <
>> http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F 
>>
>>  >
>>
>
>
> You still don't get it. There are different cables supporting 
> different data rates and features. What that means is that either the 
> cable will work, or it won't. You're not going to see any difference 
> in image quality between cables (with the possible exception of 
> sparkling but that's not what you are describing).
>
>

no. why do you think HDMI cables are rated according to spec? care to 
explain how a 1.2 cable can handle 10.2 Gbps 1080p or 4k resolution and 
16bit colour depth when it can't?

I suspect you have no practical knowledge of the matter and are only 
talking theory. but no point in arguing endlessly. you will not convince 
me, or anyone else with any experience with interconnects, that I/we do 
not see and hear what we do see and hear, or don't, depending on the 
cable used.

-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 20:53 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-14 16:53 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "SG1" <Lost@the.races.com> - 2016-01-15 08:57 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 10:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:53 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-14 23:30 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 17:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 22:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 00:43 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:27 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 00:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-15 22:52 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:32 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:27 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 09:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Jacko" <Jacko_ONE@bigpond.com> - 2016-01-17 09:47 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 11:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 20:21 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 10:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:54 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:49 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 16:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:18 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 11:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 14:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:06 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 04:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:20 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 01:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 02:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-16 19:31 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 21:27 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 21:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 09:09 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:40 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-19 16:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 12:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:03 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:12 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:13 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 19:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:04 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 17:00 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 21:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:30 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:50 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:22 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:23 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 14:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 03:03 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen harold <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 02:12 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 11:14 +1100

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