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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: [Poll] Computing favorities
Date	2015-09-01 04:59 +1000
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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
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> Peter Flass wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Osmium wrote:
>>>> "jmfbahciv" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/08/2015 15:54, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 9:32:24 AM UTC-4, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>> You are talking about IBM machines.  I was talking about DEC
>>>>>>>> machines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did DEC support time-shared interactive FORTRAN, accessed via a
>>>>>>> Teletype?  If so, was it commonly used?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For DEC users who had a high volume of input, perhaps lab
>>>>>>> observations, did they still use a Teletype to enter them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Teletype is great for small volumes of data since it is easy to
>>>>>>> learn and use.  However, for high volumes of data it is quite
>>>>>>> cumbersome, as it does not have the keying aides that a real 
>>>>>>> keypunch
>>>>>>> machine has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While 1960s BASIC accepted numbers of varying length separated by a
>>>>>>> comma, I think FORTRAN _of that era_ required fixed length fields, 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> defined by a FORMAT statement.  That meant a Teletype user had to
>>>>>>> carefully zero fill all numbers and manually space to the proper
>>>>>>> column, while a keypunch operator hit skip or the machine did so
>>>>>>> automatically via drum card.  The keypunch keyboard was faster to
>>>>>>> type on by an experienced operator than a Teletype keyboard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DEC did have a Fortran that ran on the PDP-11 but aligning the fields
>>>>>> was a chore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean the coding fields?  A <TAB> would be used to separate the
>>>>> first field from the statement field.
>>>>
>>>> This thread seems to be about some Fortran compiler that was much more
>>>> restrictive than the ones you and I used.   I started with Fortran II 
>>>> and
> it
>>>> had some fixed format attributes, but never anything that became a
>>>> noticeable problem.  I thought it was pretty much standard, McCracken 
>>>> was
>>>> the text book we used. There must have been a Fortran <no number>, 
>>>> maybe
>>>> that is the subject here.
>>>
>>> Oh, OK.  I thought most were talking about IBMish FORTRANs which didn't
>>> do disks.  When they did implement disk storage, the methods were
>>> still card-based.
>>
>>
>> Every  IBM FORTRAN I ever used did disks (except maybe 1620 FORTRAN II).
>
> How did the FORTRAN code input a disk file?
>
>>>
>>> I never used FORTRAN I but I had understood that it was FORTRAN II
>>> without the disk.  IOW, the object time system had to be loaded
>>> before any FORTRAN program in the card hopper.
>>
>>
>> Once again, when the heck was this? on a 704?
>
> No, 1620.  All output was cards or a message on the system console.
> Our 1620 did have a disk but it was used to load compilers and
> assemblers instead of using a card deck.
>
> When we got the PDP-10, if we didn't want to read/punch cards, the only
> way to run the IBM library, was to issue the commands to the 4s72
> monitor:
>
> ASSIGN DSK 5
> ASSIGN DSK 6

> Instead of cards, the files FOR05.DAT and FOR06.DAT would be used.

It wasn’t the primitive on the CDC 3600, you could specify the file name.

> It took a big mindset change to think of disk files rathern than cards.

Like hell it did. I went from the 360/50 which had no disk
to the 3600 which had a drum and an editor effortlessly.
Using an ASR33 and a dialup modem.

> I talked with prospective customers who were IBM COBOL
> programmers.  They had a very difficult problem thinking about
> compilation turnaround times in seconds rather than days or weeks.

BULLSHIT. We changed effortlessly.

> Their idea of "real time" was very different from DEC's
> notion of real time.  Theirs had to do with downstream
> proccessing and ours had to do with reality.

Even sillier than you usually manage. IBM
did plenty of timeshare rather than batch.

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