Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

From	Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams
Date	2013-05-15 17:24 +0000
Organization	Norwich University
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On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 13 May 2013 19:48, "Neil Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
>> >> require attention to the irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >> So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why
>> >> should Python programs pay attention to it? Block delimiters
>> >> are irrelevant too, the interpreter should be able to figure
>> >> them out from the code layout. But this one is absolutely
>> >> right:
>> >
>> > I think "irrelevant" in this context means stuff like memory
>> > management.
>>
>> I thought I liked that one at first, but upon reflection it
>> speciously inserts the word "irrelevant" in order to avoid
>> stating a tautology: A programming language is low level when its
>> programs require attention to low level details.
>>
>> --
>> Neil Cerutti
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
> It's not a tautology in disguise. Irrelevant != low level. When
> low level details are relevant to the scope of my program, I
> use a low level language.

It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level language,
low level details are relevant to the scope of your program.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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[Off topic] Software epigrams Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-13 09:20 +0000
  Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams "marduk@python.net" <marduk@python.net> - 2013-05-13 10:56 -0400
  Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 03:47 +1000
  Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-05-13 13:02 -0500
    Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-05-13 18:42 +0000
      Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 21:49 +0100
        Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-05-15 17:24 +0000
          Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 18:49 +0100
            Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-05-15 18:27 +0000
              Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 01:21 +0100
                Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-05-16 14:23 +0000
                Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-17 00:37 +1000
                Re: Software epigrams rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 08:06 -0700
                Re: Software epigrams Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-17 01:19 +1000
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  Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 04:12 +1000
    Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2013-05-14 03:08 +0000
      Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 13:28 +1000
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