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Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams

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On 15 May 2013 18:29, "Neil Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-13, F?bio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 13 May 2013 19:48, "Neil Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2013-05-13, Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >> 8. A programming language is low level when its programs
> >> >> require attention to the irrelevant.
> >> >>

(...)

> > It's not a tautology in disguise. Irrelevant != low level. When
> > low level details are relevant to the scope of my program, I
> > use a low level language.
>
> It is a tautology is disguise. When you use a low level language,
> low level details are relevant to the scope of your program.
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I don't see it that way. I think relevance and level are two unrelated
concepts.

For example, in python you are handling irrelevant things if you are trying
to start a program and redirecting its standard output into another
program's standard input instead of just using the shell and a pipe to do
it.

And in C you are just at the right level to write something for a
microchip, but then again you are doing a load of irrelevant stuff if you
need to work numbers larger than the maximum permitted.

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