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| Subject | Rate of Change |
| From | Street <street@shellcrash.com> |
| Message-ID | <XnsB32949BB44762streetshellcrashcom@62.164.182.22> (permalink) |
| Date | 2025-07-27 11:14 +0000 |
Time is not inherently linear. It is not merely a fourth axis in a fixed spacetime model. Rather, it emerges as both a perceptual and physical construct tied to the rate of change within systems. When this rate of change deviates significantly—especially in contexts involving mass and velocity—it can affect how time passes relative to an observer, producing measurable physical effects. In some cases, this may even lead to gravitational anomalies. Traditionally, physics has treated time as a dimension much like length, width, and height. This is the foundation of the spacetime model introduced in Einstein’s theories of relativity. Yet there exists another interpretation that is equally grounded in scientific observation: that time is not a fixed background, but a derived property—a way of comparing how systems evolve. From the perspective of thermodynamics, time’s arrow points in the direction of increasing entropy, signifying that what we experience as the forward flow of time is actually a measure of irreversible change. In quantum mechanics, time behaves differently than in classical systems, often not even functioning as a dynamic operator in the same way space does. Even in relativity, the passage of time is not absolute. Instead, time is observed to flow differently depending on relative speed and gravitational conditions. Einstein’s special relativity shows that time slows down for objects moving at high speeds. The faster something travels, the more slowly time passes for it relative to a stationary observer. General relativity extends this further, showing that strong gravitational fields also slow down time. These well-documented phenomena reveal that time is not immutable—it stretches and contracts in response to mass and motion. It is not strictly linear, but fluid and conditional, dependent on context and relative conditions. This supports the view that time is fundamentally tied to the rate of change rather than acting as an independent dimension. On Earth, most of our experience occurs within a relatively stable gravitational field, and we tend to move at similar speeds. As a result, the rates of change we observe appear consistent and synchronized. This creates the illusion of linear, uniform time. However, this uniformity is local, not universal. A practical example is the necessity of correcting GPS satellite clocks for both gravitational and velocity-based time dilation. The technology depends on compensating for the slight but significant difference in the rate at which time passes at altitude and orbital speed compared to time on the surface of the Earth. When we introduce systems involving rapid motion and concentrated mass, such as helicopter blades, we start to see more dramatic divergence in the rate of change. Helicopter blades are made of dense material and rotate at extremely high speeds. Although their tangential velocity is far below the speed of light, they nonetheless experience minor but real time dilation. These effects can be calculated using special relativity. While small in absolute terms, they become meaningful when considered as a differential from the Earth-normal time rate. The rotating blades are, in effect, operating in a slightly different temporal frame from the surrounding environment. Extrapolating from this, if high-mass, high-speed rotation can compress local time, then it could also produce distortions in inertia and gravity. This is similar to ideas proposed in theoretical propulsion systems such as the Mach Effect and the Woodward drive, which posit that inertia and gravitational interaction are not fixed, but functions of changing energy states and time. In this framework, altering the rate of time locally could feasibly modify the experience of gravity. Gravity, in general relativity, is described as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. If mass-energy can influence the passage of time, then the reverse may also be true: manipulating time—through changes in mass distribution or velocity—could affect gravitational force. This leads to the possibility of creating conditions that mimic or reduce gravity. In other words, if helicopter blades or other rotating mass systems can sufficiently alter their local time rate, they might generate a gravity-like reduction or repulsion. This conceptual model forms a speculative but not baseless approach to understanding so-called anti-gravity effects. Some experimental anomalies, like the Podkletnov effect, have fueled this hypothesis. In these controversial experiments, a spinning superconducting disc appeared to reduce the weight of objects placed above it. While unconfirmed and highly debated, such results suggest that the interaction between mass, motion, and local time rates could produce measurable changes in gravitational behavior. Another reference for this is Eric Laithwaite, a British electrical engineer, became known for his work with linear induction motors and his controversial claims about gyroscopes and "anti-gravity." Taken together, these observations support the idea that time is best understood not as a linear axis but as an emergent property of changing systems. When the rate of change departs significantly from the norm—particularly in high-mass, high-velocity systems—relativistic time dilation occurs, potentially affecting inertia and gravity. While much of this remains theoretical, the underlying principle aligns with known physics. The notion that localized time differentials could manifest as anti-gravity is not inherently unscientific. It is a provocative extension of established principles and invites further exploration into the true nature of time and its relationship to motion, matter, and the forces that shape our universe.
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Rate of Change Street <street@shellcrash.com> - 2025-07-27 11:14 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Willilam Babuh <bim@aimwi.ru> - 2025-07-27 11:39 +0000
Re: Rate of Change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 13:59 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-27 18:03 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:27 +0200
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-30 22:33 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-31 06:03 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-30 22:56 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-31 23:27 -0700
Re: Rate of Change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-01 09:50 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-31 08:43 +0200
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-31 22:16 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-01 09:53 +0200
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-01 22:31 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-01 23:42 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-02 10:11 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-01 23:45 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-02 10:04 +0200
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-02 11:36 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-03 08:06 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Edmund Balanovski <bmesnl@akvdb.ru> - 2025-08-03 09:54 +0000
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-03 22:35 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-03 22:05 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-04 09:06 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-04 09:11 -0700
Re: Rate of Change squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-08-04 18:01 +0100
Re: Rate of Change Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-04 17:23 +0000
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-04 12:40 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-04 22:43 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 09:46 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 21:30 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-07 10:12 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-10 06:20 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-10 23:34 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-12 08:55 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Marcelino Valchikovsky <vch@kosiea.ru> - 2025-08-12 08:19 +0000
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-15 10:29 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-16 07:23 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Bubba Kalimahi <mkiu@miiibak.ru> - 2025-08-16 10:34 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-17 10:30 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Bowen Metrofanis <nomo@sbbeww.gr> - 2025-08-17 13:07 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-18 09:13 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-17 22:17 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-18 09:39 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-20 01:07 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-04 08:59 +0200
Re: Rate of Change "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-04 11:51 +0200
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-04 09:17 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-04 09:24 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Percival Dudorov <duadc@dlo.ru> - 2025-08-04 14:33 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-05 09:00 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Johnathon Babadzhanov <nbnz@daa.ru> - 2025-08-05 11:51 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Moshe Stavropoulos <eeou@svh.gr> - 2025-07-31 16:08 +0000
Re: Rate of Change Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-07-31 19:54 +0200
Re: Rate of Change Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 07:47 -0700
Re: Rate of Change Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 13:02 -0800
Re: Rate of Change ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-07-27 15:04 +0000
Re: Rate of Change ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-07-27 15:11 +0000
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-27 11:05 -0700
Re: Rate of Change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-02 10:15 -0700
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