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Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science

Subject Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science
Newsgroups comp.ai.philosophy, sci.math, sci.physics.relativity
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From Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date 2026-04-11 17:16 -0700
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On 04/11/2026 10:52 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 4/11/2026 3:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 04/11/2026 05:23 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2026 8:37 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On 04/10/2026 10:41 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>> Natural and science make an oxymoron, sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Science is "natural" like numbers are "natural",
>>>> since for "first principles" and "final cause"
>>>> that according to "science" that those are "science",
>>>> and here, "logic".
>>>
>>> Your arm waving won't help, natural and
>>> science make an oxymoron.
>>>
>>
>> If it's not natural, then it's synthetic.
>> The only reason people think science is synthetic
>> is because they were told some vague reasoning
>> about paradoxes and the limitations of sense,
>
> Why don't monkeys have any science?
>

Who says they don't?

One may aver that anything that learns is following
a model of behavior influenced by science, then as
to whether they're actually "doing science" here is
that there are many in the field whose loose language
about what they're doing doesn't actually qualify.

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Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:10 -0700
  Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 10:47 -0700
    Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 09:29 -0700
      Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-07 11:08 -0700
        Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 18:32 -0700
      Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-07 19:28 -0700
        Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 07:20 -0700
      Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 12:53 -0700
        Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-09 10:50 -0700
        Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-10 18:01 -0700
          Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-10 18:15 -0700
            Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-11 07:41 +0200
              Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-10 23:37 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 00:15 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-11 14:23 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 06:33 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 07:00 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-11 19:52 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 17:16 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-11 22:15 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-12 07:36 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 00:03 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-12 11:14 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 02:22 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-12 13:59 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 09:38 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-12 18:46 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 10:04 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-12 21:33 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-12 11:31 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-12 10:29 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-13 09:46 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-13 08:38 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 12:59 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 13:06 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-17 08:59 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-04-17 08:56 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 08:08 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science x3 <x@x.net> - 2026-04-17 15:31 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 17:34 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-18 09:58 +0200
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 07:29 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-18 01:29 -0700
          Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 13:55 -0700
            Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-20 14:06 -0700
              Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-20 19:22 -0700
            Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 12:48 -0500
              Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 20:48 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 08:48 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 07:07 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 09:17 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 09:42 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 12:55 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 16:21 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 19:07 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 07:18 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 07:42 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 10:37 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 14:07 -0700
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 18:10 -0500
                Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 14:10 -0700
            Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-05-02 21:46 -0700
              Re: Theatheory: super-theory and natural science Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 09:06 -0700
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