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Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 19:29 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Samstag000011, 11.04.2026 um 19:52 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:
>>> On 4/11/2026 3:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On 04/11/2026 05:23 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>> On 4/11/2026 8:37 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/10/2026 10:41 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>>>>> Natural and science make an oxymoron, sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Science is "natural" like numbers are "natural",
>>>>>> since for "first principles" and "final cause"
>>>>>> that according to "science" that those are "science",
>>>>>> and here, "logic".
>>>>>
>>>>> Your arm waving won't help, natural and
>>>>> science make an oxymoron.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it's not natural, then it's synthetic.
>>>> The only reason people think science is synthetic
>>>> is because they were told some vague reasoning
>>>> about paradoxes and the limitations of sense,
>>>
>>> Why don't monkeys have any science?
>>>
>>
>> They have, but not yet have invented the printing press.
>>
>> TH
> 
> Well, how did the monkies come up with the Complete Works of Shakespeare
> then?

Monkeys cannot speak very well.

But some gorillas have learned to 'speak' with hand signs.

But that is difficult to print, anyhow.

Possibly you could teach a gorilla to use a printing press, but I have 
doubts about their possibility to write, if the gorilla cannot speak.

But maybe a system based on pictograms could be a way to allow the apes 
to express their emotions, transfer that to some printable form and 
subsequently squeeze it on paper.

TH

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