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Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions?

From Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com>
Newsgroups comp.mail.misc
Subject Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions?
Date 2012-10-16 13:35 +0200
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I think in this discussion the main point is not touched, namely
that the use of PGP or, worse, GPG is too awkward for all
ordinary mail users. GPG is outright user-hostile.

I also think we should all use encryption, but as long as it is
not easy to use, few people will use it.

S/MIME is easy to use and built into many mail clients. The
problem here is that a bunch of standards bodies and biggish
encryption companies has successfully monopolized the keys and
is trying to make money that way. They have mainly done that by
connecting the encryption purpose with the identification
purpose. The latter requires some effort that is worth some
money, but it is not really required for the former.

The whole thing is a mess, and governments benefit from it,
because they can all too easily eavesdrop on huge flows of email
information.

Hans-Georg

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PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-09 03:55 -0600
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-09 17:47 +0200
    Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-14 05:19 +0200
      Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-15 13:29 +0000
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-29 22:28 +0000
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-31 03:06 +0100
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Andreas Mattheiss <please.post@publicly.invalid> - 2012-10-11 22:11 +0200
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-12 19:24 -0400
    Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-10-13 15:55 +0200
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-13 13:00 -0400
        Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Kees Theunissen <theuniss@rijnh.nl> - 2012-10-15 17:49 +0200
          Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 16:43 -0400
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2012-10-16 01:19 +0300
              Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 19:35 -0400
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2012-10-16 03:39 +0300
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-10-16 13:35 +0200
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Andreas Mattheiss <please.post@publicly.invalid> - 2012-10-20 19:01 +0200
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-29 22:25 +0000
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-31 08:30 +0000
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-31 17:25 +0000
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-11-01 05:25 -0600
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-11-01 14:05 +0000
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-25 13:00 -0600
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-16 04:16 +0200
              Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 23:08 -0400
            Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-23 10:39 -0600
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2012-10-30 23:03 +0000
        Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) - 2012-11-02 07:59 -0500
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-20 19:53 +0000
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-20 16:43 -0400
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-21 09:30 +0200
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-21 08:49 -0400

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