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Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions?

From Mail Man <Mail@Man.com>
Newsgroups comp.mail.misc
Subject Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions?
Date 2012-10-15 23:08 -0400
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Fritz Wuehler wrote:
 
> > You mean like if terrorists want to send e-mail to each other?
> 
> What's the implication? That privacy is criminal?

That what you have to communicate to someone else is worth more than two
shits.

Or that some third party can intercept your mail.

> Encryption: It's not just for fascists anymore!

No - just geeks.

> > Not once have I / we ever received an email with a PGP signature,
> > or were asked to obtain and use PGP signing as a pre-condition
> > of engaging in email communication.
> 
> Sounds like you're one of the many incompetent, irresponsible
> shitheads whose laptops get stolen

I don't own a laptop.

> resulting in millions of personal records being exposed.

And we don't have records (of any sort) for millions (or even hundreds)
of people.

> If you really believe that is good enough you will change your
> mind when one of your emails or stupid posts comes back to haunt
> you.

Even if my emails with person-X were encrypted, person-X could still use
them against me at some point in the future if it was to their
advantage.

> Hint: your fake email address doesn't help.

Doesn't help what?

Help hide my identity?

So tell me who I am, where I am then.

> > So I continue to ask who, beyond those with a fetish for
> > IT technology,  has a real-world need for PGP encryption
> > or signing as part of email communication?
> 
> Anybody who wants to keep his communications private, for
> whatever reason. 

What good is sending an encrypted or pgp-signed email to someone who
doesn't know how to decrypt it - or who doesn't know (or doesn't care)
about pgp signing?

How much of a hassle is it to coax everyone in your contact list to
install this-or-that encryption/decryption/pgp software on their
desktop/laptop/cellphone ??

Or does playing with secret decoder rings still give you a buzz?

> You don't have to like it, motherfucker. It happens.

It's not a question about me liking it asswipe - it's about
understanding what of any practical value is accomplished in the end.

Have you ever received an email that your PGP software identified as
being fake?  (ie - it was not really sent by the person who claimed to
be the sender)

Has anyone ever tried to impersonate you in an email they sent to
someone else?

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PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-09 03:55 -0600
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-09 17:47 +0200
    Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-14 05:19 +0200
      Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-15 13:29 +0000
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-29 22:28 +0000
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-31 03:06 +0100
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Andreas Mattheiss <please.post@publicly.invalid> - 2012-10-11 22:11 +0200
  Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-12 19:24 -0400
    Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-10-13 15:55 +0200
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-13 13:00 -0400
        Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Kees Theunissen <theuniss@rijnh.nl> - 2012-10-15 17:49 +0200
          Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 16:43 -0400
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2012-10-16 01:19 +0300
              Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 19:35 -0400
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2012-10-16 03:39 +0300
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2012-10-16 13:35 +0200
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Andreas Mattheiss <please.post@publicly.invalid> - 2012-10-20 19:01 +0200
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-29 22:25 +0000
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-31 08:30 +0000
                Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-31 17:25 +0000
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-11-01 05:25 -0600
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-11-01 14:05 +0000
                Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-25 13:00 -0600
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-16 04:16 +0200
              Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-15 23:08 -0400
            Re: Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2012-10-23 10:39 -0600
            Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2012-10-30 23:03 +0000
        Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) - 2012-11-02 07:59 -0500
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2012-10-20 19:53 +0000
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-20 16:43 -0400
    Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201210.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-10-21 09:30 +0200
      Re: PGP tools for dumb users -- suggestions? Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2012-10-21 08:49 -0400

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