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Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode.

From Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode.
Date 2020-06-15 10:58 -0400
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On 13 Jun 2020 18:46:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
> Le 13-06-2020, Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> a écrit :
>> In article <slrnre7r38.qi.sc@scarpet42p.localdomain>, Stéphane
>> CARPENTIER  <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: ...
>>>In vim it's used for stopping what you are doing and go back in normal
>>>mode whatever happens before.
>>
>> The above sentence is weirdly phrased - odd word choices - but it is
>> hard to tell how much of it is intentional (pushing an agenda) and how
>> much of it is merely evidence that English is not the poster's first
>> language.
>
> Let's say a little bit of both. I'm here to improve my English level
> (not only I try to have real exchanges to but it's important). So if you
> see I repeat some mistakes don't hesitate to tell me, I won't take
> offence and I'll try to improve.

Me too. :-)

>> I would have put it like this:
>>
>>     In vim, it's used for ending "insert" mode and returning to
>>     "normal" mode.
>
> Not only. There is more than one mode in vim. When you type [ESC] you go
> back from any mode which is a little bit more broader than what you
> wrote but there was more meaning in what I was writing. 

No, when you are in the "command mode" ESC will do nothing.

> Let's take an example, it's be easier. When you are in normal mode, you 
> want to delete a line. So you press the first [d], and suddenly you
> realise you are not on the right line. So, instead of pressing the
> second [d], you press [ESC], you go on the right line, and then you
> press [d][d].
>
> So, you never quit the normal mode, but the [ESC] key was there to
> cancel what you where doing. There is a lot of reason to do it, your
> finger press the wrong key, you change your mind, you are interrupted,
> you want to be sure no key has been pressed before doing something. It's
> thoughtless. To end everything before starting something else.
>
> And when I'm in tools with some keybindings which begin by [ESC], it's
> very disturbing when pressing a key I get an error because I pressed [ESC]
> before without realising it.

May be the different modes of vi(m) should be brushed up. What is the
mode you start vi(m) with? Then you got INSERT. Another is to run
commands (or is that the same mode you started vi(m) with already?). Like

%s/pattern/replace_pattern/

Am very sorry I write this with Emacs in the Gnus newsreader. ;-)
-- 
Andreas

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      That's why they call it "normal" mode. (Was: most common text editors in popular distros?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-06-13 13:48 +0000
        Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-13 17:05 +0000
          Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-13 18:52 +0000
            Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-16 06:03 -0400
              Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 11:31 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-16 14:12 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-16 18:10 +0100
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-16 17:12 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-21 10:57 -0400
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 20:48 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-07-03 10:46 -0400
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-07-03 20:30 +0000
              Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-17 12:12 +0200
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-17 11:26 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-17 14:16 +0200
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-17 20:51 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-07-03 11:01 -0400
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-07-04 00:30 +0300
        Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. (Was: most common text editors in popular distros?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-13 18:46 +0000
          Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-15 10:58 -0400
            Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-06-15 17:43 +0000
              Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 21:21 +0000
            Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 19:04 +0000
              Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-15 21:05 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 22:03 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-06-18 12:55 +0200
              Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-16 06:11 -0400
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 11:35 +0000
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-16 13:11 +0100
                Re: That's why they call it "normal" mode. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-21 10:56 -0400

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