Re: on Gnus

From	Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: on Gnus
Date	2023-12-07 21:20 -0300
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Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:

> Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:
>
>> True.  Even if you're steeped in EMACS, Gnus is still hard to get to
>> grips with.  But surely the greatest feature of Gnus is precisely that
>> it runs in the GNU EMACS.
>
>      Currently it has some 876 interactive (user-callable)
>      functions. Of these 618 are in the two major modes (Group
>      and. Summary/Article).

Lol. Feature-rich!

It's really not for the new latest type of computer user.  The GNU EMACS
seems to preserve a tradition not respected by these more recent system
builders such as Microsoft, Apple, Google et cetera.  The GNU EMACS
developers still refuse to adapt the software to the change in computer
usage that took place after the commercialization of the Internet.  Part
of the very essence of these new builders is precisely to change culture
if they can.

>> But speaking of offline reading, one feature of Gnus that I really like
>> is that when I open the first article on a thread, it downloads some
>> subsequent articles, so when I ask for the next it is already there for
>> me.
>
> Using a really old version of Emacs, thus also of gnus.  I *don't*
> like software that downloads *anything* that I haven't explicitly
> asked for.

You got a point.  I'm like that too, specially with graphical user
interfaces.  For instance, if my windows are in some places, do keep
them there.  If I did not ask for a window to pop-up, do not.

Speaking of which, here's something very annoying about the Python REPL
on the GNU EMACS --- it keeps the prompt at the bottom of the window.
If you C-l so that you move it to the middle of the screen, it goes
there, but type another expression and RET and it moves again to the
bottom.  (``Who told you to scroll?'')

> Well, yew know, cranky old people, eh?

I say --- wise people.

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