on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c)

From	Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.misc
Subject	on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c)
Date	2023-12-03 13:01 -0300
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Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> Finally (for  comp.lang.c  only) , I find even more annoying than the spam
> the fact that people don't choose an appropriate  Subject:  for their posts.
> Naming a thread  "bart again (UCX64)"  is a poor choice anyway but it
> contains a long subthread on whether the closing brace of a function is
> reachable and whether a compiler should give a warning. It would certainly
> help if posts relevant to this reflected it in the  Subject: .

[...]

One difficulty there is that a good subject requires a summary of the
content, a hard problem that schools have been failing to solve.
Notice, too, that lay people write the subject first and the message,
second, which is roughly the same as writing out the number first and
doing the arithmetic later.  

So we can sort of blame that partly on the user interfaces.  Somehow,
the subject line should come as a last step.  That might be one of the
reasons lay people love the new proprietary software for conversations
--- they don't ask them to solve hard problems.  On the contrary: they
force them not to solve them.  (You don't have much to say?  No problem:
we won't let you write more than n characters anyway.)

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Recent spam on  comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-09-08 12:22 +0000
  Re: Recent spam on  comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-09-08 13:32 +0000
    Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-08 08:36 -0500
      Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-09-08 14:06 +0000
        Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-08 18:32 -0500
          Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 09:42 +0100
          Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64)) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-09-09 13:54 +0300
            Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 12:10 +0100
              Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 16:04 -0500
                Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 22:33 +0100
                Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid> - 2023-09-11 03:23 +0000
  How to change the Subject of a Usenet article (Was: Re: Recent spam on  comp.lang.c) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-08 15:50 +0100
    Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-08 18:27 -0500
      Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 09:57 +0100
        Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 15:54 -0500
          Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-09 22:08 +0100
            Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 16:18 -0500
              Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-09 22:57 +0100
                Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 17:14 -0500
                Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-09 23:36 +0100
                Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 17:38 -0500
            on Gnus (Was: Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article) Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-03 13:09 -0300
              Re: on Gnus (Was: Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2023-12-07 02:39 -0400
                Re: on Gnus yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2023-12-07 14:39 +0000
                Re: on Gnus Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-07 21:26 -0300
                Re: on Gnus yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2023-12-08 01:04 +0000
                Re: on Gnus yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2023-12-08 01:43 +0000
                Re: on Gnus Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-07 21:20 -0300
                Re: on Gnus Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2023-12-09 10:33 +0100
                Re: on Gnus Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-10 04:05 -0300
                Re: on Gnus Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2023-12-10 12:16 +0100
                Re: on Gnus Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-10 13:19 -0300
          Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-09-09 21:28 +0000
            Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-09 16:29 -0500
            Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-09-10 08:24 +0000
              Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> - 2023-09-10 11:04 +0200
                on noffle and leafnode (Was: Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article) Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-03 13:11 -0300
              Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-09-10 10:19 -0500
                Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article De ongekruisigde <ongekruisigde@news.eternal-september.org> - 2023-09-10 15:49 +0000
                Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-09-11 07:46 +0000
            Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article rdh <rdh@tilde.institute> - 2023-09-11 11:24 -0500
    Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article (Was: Re: Recent spam on  comp.lang.c) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-09 03:16 +0000
      Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 09:57 +0100
        Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-09 15:10 +0000
          Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-09-09 16:26 +0100
  on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-03 13:01 -0300
    Re: on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-12-03 16:39 +0000
      Re: on writing subject lines Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-03 14:05 -0300
      Re: on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-12-03 14:42 -0600
        Re: on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2023-12-04 23:46 +0000
          Re: on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-05 14:53 -0300
            Re: on writing subject lines Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-05 15:25 -0300
              Re: on writing subject lines scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-12-05 19:33 +0000
    Re: on writing subject lines (Was: Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-03 21:29 +0000
      Re: on writing subject lines Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-04 20:34 -0300
        Re: on writing subject lines Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-12-05 14:18 -0600
          Re: on writing subject lines Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-05 18:22 -0300
            Re: on writing subject lines scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-12-05 21:36 +0000
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              Re: on writing subject lines Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-05 19:10 -0300
                Re: on writing subject lines Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-12-05 22:15 -0800
            Re: on writing subject lines Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-05 21:45 +0000
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            Re: on writing subject lines Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2023-12-06 06:54 +0000
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