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Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article

From snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.misc
Subject Re: How to change the Subject of a Usenet article
Date 2023-09-09 09:57 +0100
Organization Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds
Message-ID <1qgsbdu.bl5ryh9zaerrN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <uddvnt$3a9si$1@dont-email.me> <ude6v5$3av40$2@dont-email.me> <fVDKthnhfJ8657wgg@bongo-ra.co> <1qgqwud.1qo1i9s1j1n0cnN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <20230908200941.933@kylheku.com>

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Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> wrote:

> On 2023-09-08, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This will cause competent User Agents to automatically discard the
> > (Was: Old Subject) part of the header when following up but maintain
> > continuity of Subject in the thread list.
> 
> Preesumably MacSoup (evidently the name of your user agent) does this?
> 

See my adjacent reply to candycane.


> Slrn isn't doing it; see Subject line. The (Was: ...) is intact.
> 
> Is there an RFC for this
>

I'm sure there is but don't ask me which one.

>
> I have the slrn code in a buildable state,
> so I will take look if it's mentioned in the code anywhere.
> 
> In my opinion, if user agents were truly competent, then this entire
> dance with (Was: ...) would be unnecessary.
> 
> It should be a feature of the user agent's display that when
> a parent article P is available and has subject line X, and
> a child article C has subject line Y, the agent itself should
> display C's subject line as, perhaps:
> 
>   Subject: Y
>   [Changed from: X]
> 
> or something similar.
> 
> Competence means doing something better in the UI with the available
> data, produced by natural behavior, such as changing the subject without
> mentioning the old subject in the subject line.
> 
> If the users have to obey some convention to produce data, that is not
> really competent. Users won't.
>

This is more like failure to use your car's turn indicators when making
a lane change.

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