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| Subject | Spelling reform on the keyboard? |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.acorn.misc |
| From | Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> |
| Date | 2012-03-07 08:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <77e2a26c52.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co.uk> (permalink) |
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I am a spelling reformer and a member of http://www.spellingsociety.org/ One of the problems of spelling for English is that we only have only 26 letters for 44 sounds. One of the things we do is to use two letters together to write one sound, eg 'th' for the teeth on tongue sound in "the". The trouble with that we sometimes want to use them to sound separately, as in "foothold". So we need more letters, handwriting is not a problem, we can all learn, the big obstacle is mechanised text, and here technical progress has been in favour of reform, there are more letters, with unicode codings. All modern screens and printers will show and print these characters. We cannot let a subsequent text editor combine t + h to give Þ unless it has a great deal of knowledge of what is and is not corrent, in effect a spell-checker. How can we produce them on a qwerty keyboard? On possibility is to re-map the keyboard, as is done for German and the Scandinavian languages. How easy is it to produce such a re-mapping in way that can be supplied to users? There seems to be a limit to the number of new letters that can be produced, am I right? Another possibility is to use two keys held down together to produce the new letter, for example t pressed down with h produces the symbol for the voiced th in 'the' = Þ, and d pressed down with h produces the symbol for the unvoiced th in 'thistle' = ð. These letters exist in both capital and small forms, Þ þ Ð ð, so capitalisation has to be thought of. The "other" keys might be ctrl and alt-ctrl. Spell-checkers are not a problem, they can be modified. All dictionaries are databases recording the standard spelling of a word, its grammatical changes (the plural form, the tenses etc), a definition of its meaning and the pronunciation, even if they don't show all these entries. The pronunciation can be reworked into whatever standard has been chosen. What's needed is to reverse the correct and incorrect, make the phonetic form correct and the standard form incorrect. The bottle-neck is getting it right in the first place, to produce the new letters straight off the keyboard. What are the possibilities? Michael Bell --
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Spelling reform on the keyboard? Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 08:55 +0000
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2012-03-12 13:07 +0000
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 15:41 +0000
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-08 21:03 +0000
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 09:13 +0000
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-12 00:49 +0100
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-08 12:30 +0000
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 01:39 +0100
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 01:50 +0100
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Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 10:37 -0800
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 19:47 +0100
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-09 10:56 -0800
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 05:06 +0100
Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard? "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 07:37 +0000
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