Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard?

From	M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk>
Subject	Re: Spelling reform on the keyboard?
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Date	2012-03-15 11:28 +0000
Message-ID	<5270cf8c94riscos@mdharding.org.uk> (permalink)
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In article <5270c7d22dUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>,
   John Williams (News) <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <f6fcb57052.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co.uk>,
>    Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote:

> > Have I thought of all I need to think of?

> Have you thought of the already-existing phonetic spelling system
> used in, for example, this French/English dictionary I have before
> me? It is summarised in both languages on just two small pages.

John's right: there already exist systems for indicating how words
are pronounced. I remember having to learn one for linguistic studies
but that's so long ago that I can't even remember now what it's called
- was it the international phonetic alphabet? 

I do recall though that the international standard symbol for the
neutral sound of the 'o' as in "Ascot" is represented by an
upside-down 'e'. Whyever 'q'???

The other thing you've overlooked, is that Cockney English isn't the
same as Yorkshire or Scouse English. Long 'a' or short 'a' is another
factor.

It sounds like trying to reinvent the wheel, but this time with added
corners.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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